(10-31-2017, 12:59 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:

(10-30-2017, 08:32 PM)rollerjag Wrote: I was going to give reasoned response to this, but you lost me when you accused me of blasting Obama critics as racist. You should really provide proof of this, or shut up about it. Your problem is you equate what you feel is my liberal leanings as being in lock step with Obama supporters, and you use a lack of criticism of Obama as proof I'm obsessed with Trump. That's a false equivalency.

My criticisms of Trump are irrelevant to my lack of criticism of Obama because they aren't based on his policies, they are personal. I don't give a rat's [BLEEP] about his policies because he doesn't give a rat's [BLEEP] about his policies beyond how they get him the attention he craves. I've disliked the man for decades, I'll continue to point out his lack of clothes to all who recognize him as Emperor.

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Post 234. I already went over this once before. We can talk about it again, but it seems clear to me that you have always been under the impression that Obama's race is the reason most people don't like him. That's absurd.

As for the false equivalency, I can't disagree more. I'm saying that you hold a standard for Trump that you don't hold for Obama (and those like him), or you wouldn't be to upset over issues that hold little weight with most Americans.

You keep overlooking one thing...I never said "most" Obama detractors didn't like him simply because he's black. I never claimed it was anywhere close to a majority. What I did say was I've heard enough people say it, and enough legitimate reporting, to believe it isn't an insignificant number. If you think that's an absurd possibility, I don't know what to tell you. I lived through school desegregation, witnessed the push-back from southern whites to civil rights protests, heard the N-word used openly well into the 21st century. I don't think every kid I grew up with in Orange Park has changed their attitudes once reaching adulthood any more than I think the co-worker, who would later be elected to a prominent political position in Duval county, who said of an interracial couple "I'll never get used to that [BLEEP]" had reached a different level of enlightenment before his death. In my home county, 98.33% white, I've personally heard enough to know there are plenty of folks who would never accept a black president.

Yes, to say every critic of Obama is racist would be absurd, but it's no less absurd than saying Obama's race wasn't a problem for a significant number of Americans.

It's a false equivalency because my criticisms of Trump are about his character and behavior. His policies are irrelevant to my criticisms. Now, you may have differing opinions regarding Obama's character and behavior, feel free to rebut, but to me there is no comparison. My dislike of Trump is personal, not political.

Again, I'm not bothered by Trump, I've come to accept him for who and what he is, a slug. Nothing he does surprises me, I just find the general acceptance of his openly boorish behavior and willful ignorance disheartening.

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