(11-01-2017, 11:57 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: (11-01-2017, 11:32 PM)haveaseat Wrote: Julius is still a more proven pass catching TE than anyone on the roster now (including Lewis as of the past however many seasons). Even if Hackett was using Olson's playbook then the team could've easily found a way to incorporate him into the offense more productively this year using his own playbook, correct? If what you're saying is the case then they could've made him look like the Julius of Denver again. It just wasn't necessary here so why keep him around?
It's just like you said. Mainly to block and chip block which is what we've been doing. Highlighting the blocking aspect here. We'll have Lewis block and you'll a TE or FB just roll out in the flats for a checkdown. Not something you're utilizing down the field in this system.
And that's the thing you're talking a few plays here in the stretch of 7 games. That's not a good argument. Neither is being presumptuous enough to say what plays we would be calling with Rivera here. He's done nothing here yet. Based on what we've seen and how comfortable they were at the position going into the season I think the TE game here is more focused on assisting the run. *shrug*
The Thomas thing is too ridiculous. I can't bother. Hackett had him for two games and he'd underperformed his entire tenure as a Jag prior. Terrible example. Has no bearing on current situation.
You are just speculating that IF they had a true receiving TE they still wouldn't use him as such. Again - I think that's ridiculous.
No - I'm not talking about a few plays. Marcedes is averaging 3 targets per game and he is NOT a receiving TE.
Rivera is a receiving TE.
Marrone went on about the difference between the two types of TEs in an offseason presser.
It stands to reason that if they actually had a receiving TE, they'd be targeting him more than they have Lewis.
His entire tenure? You mean the whole 2 years? lol. The Thomas thing is not ridiculous. He is ultimately a pass catching tight end and superior in that category to anything we have on the roster right now. If we felt we could use him more efficiently we could have retained him in this system. It wasn't necessary and he can't block. He couldn't stay healthy either but he just didn't fit in here to keep around.
I'm not saying they wouldn't use a true receiving TE. I just don't think it's a big deal to them with what they're doing. I mean if it was they would've gotten some other proven commodity through FA, draft or trade or at least kept Julius. Rivera hasn't done squat here. He may never even play for us.
If you're incorporating a passing TE then you aren't throwing the ball to Lewis. O'Shauhnessy/Koyack are the guys you'd be throwing it to. Not the slowest TE on the team. To me that's just borderline trickery. Honestly, if Rivera wasn't on IR I didn't think he would even make the team over Koyack, tbh. 3 targets a game is not a lot, either. Compare that to how many times the TE's are blocking in the game. Based on what's been shown that's just the way it seems right now to me in where the importance truly lies in what we're doing.
But you can argue it both ways, I guess.
