(11-02-2017, 12:29 AM)haveaseat Wrote: (11-01-2017, 11:57 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
The Thomas thing is too ridiculous. I can't bother. Hackett had him for two games and he'd underperformed his entire tenure as a Jag prior. Terrible example. Has no bearing on current situation.
You are just speculating that IF they had a true receiving TE they still wouldn't use him as such. Again - I think that's ridiculous.
No - I'm not talking about a few plays. Marcedes is averaging 3 targets per game and he is NOT a receiving TE.
Rivera is a receiving TE.
Marrone went on about the difference between the two types of TEs in an offseason presser.
It stands to reason that if they actually had a receiving TE, they'd be targeting him more than they have Lewis.
His entire tenure? You mean the whole 2 years? lol. The Thomas thing is not ridiculous. He is ultimately a pass catching tight end and superior in that category to anything we have on the roster right now. If we felt we could use him more efficiently we could have retained him in this system. It wasn't necessary and he can't block. He couldn't stay healthy either but he just didn't fit in here to keep around.
I'm not saying they wouldn't use a true receiving TE. I just don't think it's a big deal to them with what they're doing. I mean if it was they would've gotten some other proven commodity through FA, draft or trade or at least kept Julius. Rivera hasn't done squat here. He may never even play for us.
If you're incorporating a passing TE then you aren't throwing the ball to Lewis. O'Shauhnessy/Koyack are the guys you'd be throwing it to. Not the slowest TE on the team. To me that's just borderline trickery. Honestly, if Rivera wasn't on IR I didn't think he would even make the team over Koyack, tbh. 3 targets a game is not a lot, either. Compare that to how many times the TE's are blocking in the game. Based on what's been shown that's just the way it seems right now to me in where the importance truly lies in what we're doing.
But you can argue it both ways, I guess.
It's just the two bolded parts I disagree on the most.
Thomas was part of a trade becuase they needed an upgrade on the line and he had been a disappointment in the
PRIOR system. He never actually saw the field under Marrone/Hackett due to injury. So there's no way to say how they may have used him.
I think they had every intention of pairing Rivera with Lewis this year and still value him and his cheap contract next year -- which is why he's on the team's IR, getting paid, and not on the street after an injury settlement.
Anyway - I think Hackett would use a receiving TE more than you think he would. No big deal. We can let the thread move back on topic in polite disagreement I'm sure.
On topic:
I wonder if Pryor will see the field on special teams soon?
I suppose he'd see the defensive field in the ultra-rare dime package -- and he'd become the primary back-up safety ahead of Thompson, but I don't see him unseating Church or Gip anytime soon.
