(11-05-2017, 11:50 PM)luigi Wrote: This defense is playing extremely good, props to them, the one thing that slightly bothers me (I know its kind of nitpicking) is turnovers, they haven't got any the last 2 games and I wouldn't like them to continue that streak, that being said though they have allowed 0 and 7 points respectively in those 2 games lol just keep being great defense.

I know what you're saying about turnovers.  I was thinking the same thing about sacks.   But then I realized it's hard to get turnovers and sacks if the other team never has the ball.  Cincy only had 8 first downs.  One of those 8 was by penalty.   They only ran 37 plays!  According to Oehser, that is an all time record low number of plays for them!  They only had the ball 19 minutes out of 60.  They only got 16 total yards in the entire second half!!   We made first down after first down.   We converted 3rd down after 3rd down.  Nortman didn't punt until the end of the 3rd quarter!

We can't get sacks and turnovers if the other team never has the ball!

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(11-06-2017, 12:08 AM)myrick31 Wrote: Blocked punt TDs, kick return TDs, and 56 yard field goals have nothing to do with defense.  And the defense should not be given credit for when the offense has a 7 minute drive or Nortman pins the other team deep.

Yes, that's why the best defensive stat is yards per play and total yards given up. 

Points given up is not a defensive stat.  It's a team stat that includes all points, including pick-6s, punt returns for TDs, short field TDs where the offense left the defense in a bad spot, etc etc etc.

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