(11-10-2017, 12:50 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: (11-10-2017, 10:36 AM)Kane Wrote: How about the people that pay 0 dollars? Should they have to start paying (meaning, not getting a return)
What about the people that not only pay nothing but get a surplus FROM taxes.... just because they made bad life choices and had kids out of wedlock and can't earn enough at McD's to support the kids they aren't even mature enough to actually raise right....?
So sick how easily people want to take other peoples money... to support people who have no or had no desire to do the right things to set themselves up in life.
Welfare is forced upon not only the wealthy but the middle class, disguised as charity to grow a population of people who need the government more than they need dignity.
Out of wedlock? That's funny stuff.
Thank goodness Marriage is being marginalized more and more and we are much better for it.
It's a contract that allows the government into your love life. No thanks.
Oh geez.... fine.. don't get married...
To me.. marriage is a matter of the heart. Take the piece of paper and tax code out of it....
Two parents is better than 1. Period. End of statement.
Out of everything I said... all you had was some slight on how you don't agree with the concept of marriage?
Nice.
The statistics are staggering when you look at criminals and the social environment they grew up in.
(11-10-2017, 11:58 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: (11-10-2017, 10:36 AM)Kane Wrote: How about the people that pay 0 dollars? Should they have to start paying (meaning, not getting a return)
What about the people that not only pay nothing but get a surplus FROM taxes.... just because they made bad life choices and had kids out of wedlock and can't earn enough at McD's to support the kids they aren't even mature enough to actually raise right....?
So sick how easily people want to take other peoples money... to support people who have no or had no desire to do the right things to set themselves up in life.
Welfare is forced upon not only the wealthy but the middle class, disguised as charity to grow a population of people who need the government more than they need dignity.
This is gonna be fun, because my answer is gonna tick off evangelical conservatives and will probably make liberals' heads explode. These are my true opinions though and a big reason why no one would elect me if I ever ran for office. First off, I would make every girl in the United States get a Norplant birth control device implanted in their arm at age 11. Let's face it, kids are not responsible and their gonna have sex, so that abstinence stuff is bunk. They will not get the Norplant taken out until they are either married with a job substantial enough to take care of kids or they and their potential "baby daddy" can pass an I.Q. test in English, where they would have to score at least 100. No pass, no baby. If you remove the Norplant on your own and get pregnant, you get no government assistance, ever. No unemployment, no disability, no Welfare, no nothing. I have no problem helping people out good people who fall on hard times, but I don't wanna take care of idiots who have no jobs, no education, but have multiple children they can't take care of. I would also put a cap on the limit of biological children you can have to 6. The world is overpopulated enough. I feel that allowing 6 is being very generous. After the sixth kid, you and your "significant other" both would get "fixed". I don't care what your religious beliefs are. If they don't like it, they can leave the U.S.
Now, I'm gonna sit back and let the hate rain down. 
So... you think the government should regulate procreation? (I'm against more gov't regulation... but I must admit, I really like the idea of stupid people not having babies)
Interesting.....
I think they should just stop rewarded bad choices. You don't get free stuff because you chose to have a bunch of kids with a bunch of losers that don't wanna pay child support.
You should not be rewarded for being unemployed. It should be HARDER to get assistance. The government should hand out jobs instead of food stamps.
You shouldn't be punished (taxation of wages) for working
