(11-10-2017, 03:41 PM)Kane Wrote:

(11-10-2017, 02:37 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: It wouldn't encourage them any more than they are now. If they are worried about getting pregnant, they use protection. It's the ones that don't think about this that the Norplants would cover. You're right, kids should wait to have sex, but it's the forbidden fruit that is thrown at them throughout the media and television and as long as that goes on and the hormones kick in, they'll keep doing it. 

Education does nothing. We had numerous speakers come to my high school telling us that drinking was bad and they gave us statistics and all kind of information telling us why we shouldn't drink. Meanwhile, 80% of my classmates and I were partying every weekend behind our parents backs. My parents had no clue, because I was sneaky. I knew I would be in huge trouble if they found out, because they taught me differently, but I wanted to do what I wanted to do and no one was gonna stop me. I went on to tell them everything I did when I was a teenager, after I had moved out of the house and they couldn't do anything about it. It was to teach them, that people will do what they want to do, no matter how much you try and teach them right from wrong. They were disappointed, but they got over it. After college, I quit partying and now, I don't drink at all. I haven't for about 20 years, but I don't regret what I did when I was young. I dodged a lot of bullets, but I had fun along the way and I enjoyed my youth.

Children's best teachers aren't in your public schools and private universities... (as they are tainted with government money)
You are your child's best teacher. You teach them right from wrong and set a good example. Everything else is on them once they hit adulthood.

If a young teen ends up preggo... guess who's fault that is... the parents.
Your kid shoots up a school? Your fault.. should have been a better parent.
Your kid gets drunk underage... your fault.

I'd say if you got that loose, your parents were too loose... and you are right, you're lucky to have dodged the "bullets"

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(11-10-2017, 03:08 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I don't consider longer waiting periods and more extensive background checks as "gun control". Gun control is trying to take way your guns, limiting the type of guns you can own privately and limiting the amount of guns you can have. I am against all of those limitations.

And instantly all the gun crime goes away! lol

Wrong! The best parents in the world can have bad kids. Period. Thinking the parents are at fault for everything their kids do is just ignorant. Placing too many restrictions on kids will just make them rebel or turn into a psychopath. One of my friends in school had extremely religious and strict parents. Extremely. He rebelled big time. He snuck out of the house, totaled 3 cars, ended up in the drunk tank one time and each time, his punishments got worse, he did something even more rebellious. He went into the military after high school and got hooked on drugs. He also started abusing steroids as well. He went in to the Army weighing about 140 lbs. and came back almost 200 lbs. of muscle and the most erratic mood swings I've ever seen. He would have violent fits where he wanted to fight everyone. It certainly wasn't his parents fault. Heck, by your logic it would be the military's fault for his drug addiction, because he didn't have it before he went in. Life isn't just black and white. You can teach your kids the "right way" to do things all you want, but if they decide they don't wanna do things "your way" free will kicks in and no matter how good of parents they had, they will do what they want. 

As for my parents, obviously you've never met them. If you did, you'd change your tune. It sounds like you've lived a pretty sheltered life to have such one dimensional ideas about parenting.

As for the waiting periods and background checks on gun buyers, I never said they would cause all gun crimes to disappear, but if it stopped just one, it would be worth it.

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