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spacecoastjag · 11-17-2017, 11:11 AM

(11-17-2017, 10:25 AM)B2hibry Wrote: Bortles may be the near future out of necessity, but he is not this teams longterm future...guaranteed. Not a prototypical Coughlin QB and he seems to be at or near his ceiling.

How can you tell someone is at his near ceiling when they are 25 years old, their INT % has gone down 4 years straight, and he's throwing to Keelan Cole, Jaydon Mickens, and Marcedes Lewis--- maybe the worst weapons in the league?! bahaha you people aren't scouts. Clearly.

(11-17-2017, 11:07 AM)Billsfan1212 Wrote:
(11-17-2017, 09:33 AM)Upper Wrote: 1. Draft stock means nothing 4 years down the road.
2. The Bills are idiots who have made idiotic moves all year, including this one. Imagine if we used the logic that Dareus lost his job to an undrafted 2nd year player so he must suck and we can't use him.
3. Keenum this season is playing way better than Bortles ever has in his career, and he's doing it in virtually the exact system that we want to run here. He would be a plug and play upgrade from week 1 that could hold us over until the rookie is ready or maybe even longer.

Its safe to say then, you have not watched any Bills games ALL YEAR. If you had you wouldnt be saying this (OR if you watched the 2nd half of the THU game you are giving them way too much credit)
Since this move happed, I've seen a few outlets say JAX would be an excellent landing sport for TT.
While there may be SOME truth to it - its due to your system. TT's biggest issue at this point is he has to find a team willing to find a team willing to build around him. It'll be the difference between making something of his career or being the guy who everyone says ' his next stop is where he figures it out'
With Marrone saying he wants to run all the time etc - I get the impression that its a fit BUT if something happens and theres an O coordinator change who has a different philosophy, he coulf find himself smack dab in the same situation he's in now.
I've seen people on this board clamoring for national props/credit. Buffalo is the same way, the national media lowers the bar and then makes a big deal when they jump over it - like its cute. The flip side is no one really pays attention, actually watches the games in context. You guys seem to be out of this now and people are paying attention to and watching JAX games... which is great.
Listening to people call the Bills dumb for benching Taylor is kinda funny bc it stems more from a disrespect for the club than the actual situation. No one is fact checking these guys and they keep throwing out stats or more often statements that just arent true (rather just an assumption or reach based on paying minimal attention) but the funny thing is no one outside Buffalo is watching either so no one is there to call em out or even know they are wrong.
Anywho, I'm not a huge Peterman supporter. But the thing is, he's the ANTI-TYROD. His qb rating % and ints are low... but they lead the league in 3 and outs - also technically a turnover. Its gotta be maddening for a OC to game plan and on game day have that plan not work only to review the all 22 and see that in fact it WOULD have worked had the qb just chucked the rock. He has won something like FOUR games when his team gets down by 4 or more points. Not this year - in his career. As a fan its SSSOO frustrating everytime you loose or have a putrid offensive performance to have the other team (NEVER FAIL) it was easy, all we had to do was make him play QB. I dont wanna ramble on, but essentially they had to be at their wits end. After TT watched every Benjiman reception in the NFL and had a talk with coach how to use him for 50/50 balls and take chances he was target 3x (1 complete, 2 absolute turds) and then avoided him like the plague for the rest of the game. The hate last week was being down 20, and having multiple 3rd and long situations end with a 4-6 yard checkdown. Rick Dennison was asked why they were taking chances and he said he had told him to and he interprited that as check down and see if the guy can make a move for the 1st. Heck, it wasnt until Peterman came in a completed ball traveled over 10 yards!! Thats bad. I support this move for no other reason than I support not being complacent with 'ok. Our standards have gotten low and TTs supporters always lead with the argument ' well hes the best we've had since Jim Kelly'..... uuuhhhh so? thats not saying a lot! Coach didnt say this was for a 'spark' or to 'evaluate' (surely they could have given him a couple games at the end of the year) but rather to make the team better. It sounds like at some point over the last few weeks the team decided TT was surpassed by Peterman. Hopefully now we get more than 4-6x WR targets in a game and dont have to deal with the 8 man stacked boxes.
It is telling however than no AFCE teams seem to be clamoring for Taylor. Heck, the Jets have a 38 yr old qb and their fans seem to have seen enough from TT over the last 3 years to know better.
Maybe at THIS moment in time Taylor would be a better game manager than Bortles - but you dont want him as your future. So Mr Upper, before you criticize a move you dont understand - take the time to consider all sides and just as the National Media hasnt known whats up in JAX or given them their due ( until recently ) I implore you to try and take all points into account prior to making statments like that. Thanks!!

TT is a David Garrard clone. Guy can only make one NFL throw- A slant.