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We need a new QB!!!

Jags02
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11-27-2017, 11:58 AM

(11-27-2017, 07:04 AM)Achilles Wrote:
(11-26-2017, 09:38 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Blake Bortles fourth quarter numbers on the season: 42-73, 419 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT, 55.6 rating, 5.7 Y/A, 1.3 TD%, 5.4 INT%

So clutch.....

That's one of the big problems. Blake just never rises to the occasion. He played mediocre for most of the game.

Yes the OL wasn't as good as normal. Chandler Jones was feasting.

But every QB deals with that. Every QB deals with struggles on the offense. The truly good QBs find ways to overcome that.

Generally, it's our defense that's been bailing Blake out.

I don't think Blake is horrible, but there are nice upgrades that will be available next season and it would be silly to continue with Blake, unless the front office restructures with him and is confident a rookie could step in fast.

I wouldn't pay that 5th year option price to a guy who can't win us games

(11-27-2017, 12:20 AM)haveaseat Wrote: Brah Mariota is trash

Shouldn't drink so much on Sundays. I'd rather have Blake than Mariota, and I don't want Blake.

The $19 mil 5th-year option price is nothing compared to the franchise tag price for a qb, or for that matter, compared to the free agent contract price for any qb signficantly better than Bortles. I'm wondering if we may be able to get him for less next year by signing him to a small extension for an extra year or two.

I do think we want to QB in the draft, however, with us picking near the end of round one there likely won't be any immediate starters. I'm thinking we draft a guy with an optimal skill-set to groom properly behind Blake as the backup, and by that I mean letting him sit and learn for a couple years. I thought we had that guy in Brandon Allen, but now we need to look for another young up-and-comer with a great arm like he had.

Simply put, I feel Blake is plenty capable of winning games and staying healthy, the latter of which is something Luck, Mariota, Watson and Carr have all struggled to do. I'm not saying he doesn't have faults... his passes can certainly be more accurate, far too many of his passes get knocked down, and that wobble of his I have to think make his passes tough to catch ...but Blake manages to get the job done. We don't see him folding out there...rather we see him doing what it takes by scoring two TDs on his feet. The INT was unfortunate, but those happen... his INT rate over the past several weeks is actually rather encouraging. Moreover, the way Blake was playing late in the game I thought for sure that the Cards were going to miss that kick and the Jags were going to win in OT. That was one heck of a kick to win it.

In other words, we can win Blake, and had Wash given more thought to blizing Gabbert we would have won this game. All of that said, I'm weary of giving Blake a huge extension... I'm fine with a year or two more at a fair rate for both sides, but a mega-contract for Bortles could backfire if his arm fatigue issues were to surface in the future. Part of the reason we're winning is that we're running so well and have been able to keep Blake on a reasonable snap count. But if we find ourselves in the future unable to run over a longer stretch of time, things could turn ugly quick with Blake.

'02

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We need a new QB!!! - by spacecoastjag - 11-26-2017, 03:41 PM

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RE: We need a new QB!!! - by DragonFury - 11-26-2017, 04:04 PM

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RE: We need a new QB!!! - by spacecoastjag - 11-26-2017, 05:01 PM

RE: We need a new QB!!! - by Cleatwood - 11-26-2017, 08:44 PM

RE: We need a new QB!!! - by Jags - 11-26-2017, 08:48 PM

RE: We need a new QB!!! - by haveaseat - 11-26-2017, 04:41 PM

RE: We need a new QB!!! - by Achilles - 11-26-2017, 05:01 PM

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RE: We need a new QB!!! - by Cleatwood - 11-26-2017, 09:49 PM

RE: We need a new QB!!! - by Achilles - 11-27-2017, 07:04 AM

RE: We need a new QB!!! - by Jags02 - 11-27-2017, 11:58 AM

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