(12-16-2017, 06:12 PM)rollerjag Wrote:

(12-16-2017, 02:31 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Is this going to be your arguments from now on? Just call something an opinion so you don't have to respond.

https://www.politico.com/video/2016/07/o...ver-059832
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...48f739dcc6
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/comm...-feminists

Those are a couple that I found in 5 minutes on Google. That doesn't include all of the times they said it on-air. 

Speaking of opinions, that's all your second second was... an opinion.

Gimmicks? Which ones are you talking about?

Oh, please. The marketplace is unaffordable because the ACA is horrible. It's current pricing doesn't have anything to do with Trump or his plan. The costs of these plans have skyrocketed since it was implemented. I'm not even sure why you're bring it up now since it's unrelated to anything we're talking about.

Ah, the folly of posting links without checking their content. One was just a report on Obama's quote, the other broke it down for discussion. Only one actually supported the claim.

Gimmick? Why do you think the tax cuts for middle class end on a certain date?

The premiums rose for my friend specifically because insurance companies are no longer reimbursed for discounts given to low income subscribers. This was a Trump administration decision.

Did you read them? That one was from Obama, yes, but it's still being pushed by the media. In fact, the media used that clip to talk more in-depth about it, and they used on-air segments to agree with it. The other two do speak about it. The point remains.

What date does it end, and which tax cuts are you saying are gimmicks? You're still not answering the question.

Premiums went up, on average 25%, for 2017. The costs have been increasing since its implementation, and the only reason it was ever even remotely close to affordable was because the Federal government was subsidizing it. The Feds can't afford to subsidize it. Where do you think the problem starts? Is it Obama for making your friends buy into something that was unaffordablee or Trump for revealing that it's unaffordable. Do you expect a handout because that's what reimbursements are.

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