(12-20-2017, 02:40 PM)Kane Wrote:

(12-20-2017, 02:17 PM)FreeAgent01 Wrote: Rosen almost certainly will declare.  Darnold is questionable, but if he gets back from the advisory board that he'll go top of the 1st then I would think he would too.  McCarron was traded before the trade was voided, I seriously doubt he'll be back to play backup to Andy Dalton some more.  Those seven free agent quarterbacks will be signed by some team before the draft.  That leaves at most 8 teams having any kind of desire for a starting quarterback and 6 potential 1st round quarterbacks.  There will be some combination of quarterbacks available at the end of round one between those six - who they are remains to be seen.

The point is that if there is a quarterback that you like as a team's GM available to you at the end of round 1, regardless if it's Aaron Rodgers or Johnny Manziel, then you have to give it some serious consideration if you believe he's a franchise quarterback that'll be $13+ million cheaper for 4 more years.

Personally I think Dalton might be done in Cincy.
They're gonna have some turnover on staff that won't be tied to that QB per say.
Honestly I haven't seen anything in my scouring of the interwebs to find that Rosen is likely to declare. Jim Mora actually said he's pretty sure he's coming back to school.
But lets say they all declare.
So... say we're picking 25th... How many QB hungry teams will pick before us? You really think there'll be a clear cut franchise guy to be had there?

Sure, if Caldwell and Coughlin think there is a franchise QB at 25 I say pick him.
But I don't think that means we should go into the next season with that guy and some scrub 5 mil per year veteran.
It's asking to take a step or two back. I mean, the last time Caldwell saw a franchise guy, he picked him in the top 5 and it took him more than 3 years to develop.

It seems you're more interested in saving cap money than the team being good or competitive the next season.
We don't have a cap problem. The numbers were in our favor when discussing paying oodles to Cousins... Bortles 19 mil isn't going to break us and certainly wouldn't have any effect after 2018 should we have to move on.

Let me be clear, I think we should draft a QB... Hell, if it's round 1, then it's round 1.
But I don't think by drafting a QB we should cut Bortles just to save 13 mil on one year.

At most 8 teams in front of us would have use of a 1st round quarterback, assuming the Patriots and Steelers want one and they are picking in front of us. Yes, I absolutely believe there will be multiple quarterbacks available in the mid 20s that some NFL GM views as a franchise quarterback. There are late 1st round quarterbacks every year.

No, I'm not saying we should do it. I'm saying its one of two real options for us. If we choose not to invest in Bortles long-term, he needs to be traded while he still has value and we can add a 1st round rookie and a veteran placeholder. Or we can draft him some competition and re-evaluate the decision after next season, which may be costly, cap-wise.

We don't have a cap problem, but we soon will have one. That's what happens when you have a veteran starting quarterback under contract. Yannick and Jalen are going to be very expensive while Fowler and Jack will both be $7+. We can't keep all of our players.

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