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Bortles Free Agency Value


(12-20-2017, 02:52 PM)FreeAgent01 Wrote:
(12-20-2017, 02:40 PM)Kane Wrote: Personally I think Dalton might be done in Cincy.
They're gonna have some turnover on staff that won't be tied to that QB per say.
Honestly I haven't seen anything in my scouring of the interwebs to find that Rosen is likely to declare. Jim Mora actually said he's pretty sure he's coming back to school.
But lets say they all declare.
So... say we're picking 25th... How many QB hungry teams will pick before us? You really think there'll be a clear cut franchise guy to be had there?

Sure, if Caldwell and Coughlin think there is a franchise QB at 25 I say pick him.
But I don't think that means we should go into the next season with that guy and some scrub 5 mil per year veteran.
It's asking to take a step or two back. I mean, the last time Caldwell saw a franchise guy, he picked him in the top 5 and it took him more than 3 years to develop.

It seems you're more interested in saving cap money than the team being good or competitive the next season.
We don't have a cap problem. The numbers were in our favor when discussing paying oodles to Cousins... Bortles 19 mil isn't going to break us and certainly wouldn't have any effect after 2018 should we have to move on.

Let me be clear, I think we should draft a QB... Hell, if it's round 1, then it's round 1.
But I don't think by drafting a QB we should cut Bortles just to save 13 mil on one year.

No, I'm not saying we should do it.  I'm saying its one of two real options for us.  If we choose not to invest in Bortles long-term, he needs to be traded while he still has value and we can add a 1st round rookie and a veteran placeholder.  Or we can draft him some competition and re-evaluate the decision after next season, which may be costly, cap-wise.

We don't have a cap problem, but we soon will have one.  That's what happens when you have a veteran starting quarterback under contract.  Yannick and Jalen are going to be very expensive while Fowler and Jack will both be $7+.  We can't keep all of our players.

Wow... WHO is going to trade for Bortles on a one year 19 mil deal?
Yannick and Jalen's contracts are down the road still, lots of dollars to move between now and then.
Right now our only contract worries are Colvin and AR15.
Fowler has yet to earn any sort of contract extension. Same for Jack a second year player.
You worry about those contracts when you have to. And our guys have been pretty good at keeping contracts under check.
The Bortles hit is ONLY for this year until you extend him.
In another season, we may be moving on from FA guys with bigger cap hits. We likely won't be dipping into the FA market for a lot so we don't need to spend the money there.
You seem to have our options mixed up.
1. Bortles plays for 19 mil as a Jag, with drafting a guy in ANY round.
2. Bortles is CUT, and we either play a rookie or whatever FA we can land with the best case scenario likely being Tyrod Taylor or Sam Bradford.

There is no scenario where Bortles can be, would be, or will be traded.
And given those two options, #1 is WAAAY better.
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Bortles Free Agency Value - by Gojags - 12-06-2017, 04:39 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Jags02 - 12-06-2017, 05:12 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Jags02 - 12-06-2017, 05:18 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by JagsFanSince95 - 12-06-2017, 09:32 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by TrivialPursuit - 12-06-2017, 09:35 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by imtheblkranger - 12-06-2017, 10:23 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by RealJagsFan - 12-06-2017, 11:15 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by JagsFanSince95 - 12-07-2017, 12:24 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by brianmsbc - 12-06-2017, 10:42 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Adam2012 - 12-06-2017, 01:57 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by JaG4LyFe - 12-06-2017, 12:44 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by HandsomeRob86 - 12-06-2017, 09:22 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by JaG4LyFe - 12-06-2017, 10:59 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by TrivialPursuit - 12-06-2017, 12:55 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Cleatwood - 12-06-2017, 02:00 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by imtheblkranger - 12-06-2017, 05:40 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by imtheblkranger - 12-06-2017, 10:30 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by TrivialPursuit - 12-06-2017, 08:21 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by JackCity - 12-06-2017, 09:10 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by D6 - 12-10-2017, 01:48 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Jags02 - 12-10-2017, 07:46 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-06-2017, 02:18 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by imtheblkranger - 12-06-2017, 02:50 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-06-2017, 03:11 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Jags02 - 12-09-2017, 01:11 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-06-2017, 01:30 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by RicoTx - 12-06-2017, 01:55 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by TJBender - 12-06-2017, 09:48 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by WhoYouBE - 12-06-2017, 02:04 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-06-2017, 02:40 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by ATLjag - 12-06-2017, 02:46 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Cleatwood - 12-06-2017, 02:49 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by jagibelieve - 12-06-2017, 11:03 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by jagibelieve - 12-06-2017, 11:25 PM
WhoYouBE - by WhoYouBE - 12-06-2017, 11:29 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by JagsFanSince95 - 12-07-2017, 12:43 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Sneakers - 12-07-2017, 01:06 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by JagsFanSince95 - 12-07-2017, 01:34 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by WhoYouBE - 12-06-2017, 11:18 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-07-2017, 12:30 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Upper - 12-07-2017, 02:09 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by JAGFAN88 - 12-09-2017, 01:21 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by JaG4LyFe - 12-10-2017, 09:05 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Jest101 - 12-10-2017, 09:08 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by HandsomeRob86 - 12-10-2017, 09:11 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Gojags - 12-19-2017, 02:09 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by JagFanatic24 - 12-19-2017, 02:20 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by jessepeck1213 - 12-19-2017, 02:45 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by LetsBReal - 12-19-2017, 04:17 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by jagboss - 12-19-2017, 02:38 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by NJ JagsFan - 12-19-2017, 02:47 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by jaglou53 - 12-19-2017, 03:05 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-19-2017, 04:42 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by D6 - 12-19-2017, 05:59 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-19-2017, 06:00 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by D6 - 12-19-2017, 06:07 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Jags02 - 12-20-2017, 01:52 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by imtheblkranger - 12-19-2017, 05:04 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Krayz_Jville_D - 12-19-2017, 05:05 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by scottyg - 12-19-2017, 05:21 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by jessepeck1213 - 12-19-2017, 05:49 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-19-2017, 05:55 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Jags02 - 12-20-2017, 01:43 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by jagshype - 12-19-2017, 05:22 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-19-2017, 05:26 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Krayz_Jville_D - 12-19-2017, 06:21 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by D6 - 12-19-2017, 06:29 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by imtheblkranger - 12-19-2017, 07:49 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-20-2017, 10:49 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by jaglyn - 12-19-2017, 06:41 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-19-2017, 06:42 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Jags02 - 12-20-2017, 01:57 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Eric1 - 12-20-2017, 02:09 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by JagsFanSince95 - 12-20-2017, 05:44 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by The Real Marty - 12-20-2017, 06:54 AM
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RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by ColoJag - 12-20-2017, 02:04 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Jags02 - 12-20-2017, 08:15 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by imtheblkranger - 12-20-2017, 08:44 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Jags02 - 12-20-2017, 08:44 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by jaglyn - 12-20-2017, 06:10 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-20-2017, 10:54 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-20-2017, 11:12 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by imtheblkranger - 12-20-2017, 11:18 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-20-2017, 11:23 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-20-2017, 11:25 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-20-2017, 12:03 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by imtheblkranger - 12-20-2017, 12:06 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Jaguarmeister - 12-20-2017, 12:14 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-20-2017, 12:17 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-20-2017, 01:36 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Jags02 - 12-20-2017, 08:54 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by flsprtsgod - 12-21-2017, 07:34 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by RicoTx - 12-21-2017, 09:13 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by The Real Marty - 12-21-2017, 09:42 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-20-2017, 01:50 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Cleatwood - 12-20-2017, 01:53 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-20-2017, 02:05 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-20-2017, 01:56 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Cleatwood - 12-20-2017, 01:57 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-20-2017, 02:17 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-20-2017, 02:40 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-21-2017, 11:41 AM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-20-2017, 02:52 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-20-2017, 02:59 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-20-2017, 03:07 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Kane - 12-20-2017, 03:40 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by scottyg - 12-20-2017, 03:50 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by flsprtsgod - 12-20-2017, 03:09 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by Cleatwood - 12-20-2017, 03:40 PM
RE: Bortles Free Agency Value - by FreeAgent01 - 12-20-2017, 04:01 PM
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