(01-15-2018, 07:45 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:

(01-15-2018, 05:28 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: That's pretty close to what I said.  

If you say we are taking people from [BLEEP] hole countries, so we're getting [BLEEP] hole candidates, then you are not basing your judgment on individual merit; you are judging people based on what country they come from.   And that goes against everything most of us say we believe in- that a person should be judged based on who they are and not on things like where they come from. 

"Why should we take people from [BLEEP] hole countries?"   The answer should be, we don't care what country they come from.    The Republican position is- judge candidates based on their individual merit and not on where they come from.   Trump completely contradicted his party's position.  The accusation of racism stems from casting of third world countries into the "[BLEEP] hole" category.   It sounds like he doesn't want so many brown and black people coming in.  It sounds like he wants more white people.  

The debate is between the current system of quotas and a proposed merit-based system.  A quota system is a country-based system.   A merit-based system is an individual based system which does not take any account of what country a person comes from- it only judges people based on their individual merit.

No, because the context was about Trump wanting to add a passage to the DACA bill for repealing a law (the visa lottery) that does choose immigrants based on country. It was not Trump who was saying that nobody from those countries should be allowed in, he was saying that those countries should not be given special status to encourage immigration.