(01-16-2018, 11:01 AM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote: And if Belichick doesn't cheat, he'd probably not be in New England still.  Notice how none of his coaching tree ever does anything?  The Belichick coaching tree is incredibly weak.  Wonder why that is.

Well, BB has never cheated.  It's been documentd over and over.  Goodell is a liar and was hired to cheat the Pats.

12.3.10


Bill Cowher: “You know, let me just say this: To answer your question, no, I don’t think so (it’s not an advantage for one team over another).
I just know as a head coach, you are always looking for a competitive edge. We had people out there trying to look at signals. We had guys go to games. They would tape the signal caller and also write it down. They would take it back and match up the signals with the game film and certain defenses with certain plays that were being called, particularly the defenses being called, to see if we could come up with some kind of an alert for a signal. So, what they did with videotaping the signal caller, people do it with the people in the stands!!
These people sitting there in the stands, looking at the signal, writing it down and matching up the 1st and 10 signal. Ok? Then you go back again and the 2nd and 10 and here’s the signal. You do that for a whole game.
You then go back and match up the defenses with the signal. And you can come up with what the signal was.
So, you don;’t need a video tape with what they were talking about doing. And people were doing it. WE were doing that. Everybody does that. You’re TRYING to gain a competitive edge. There is nothing wrong with that.
That’s why baseball players go through the mirage of signals. They’ve got all these different codes. That’s part of the competitive spirit of the game. I think it’s totally overblown. I think if you get caught (signals compromised), then do what we did and go to wristbands, you are worried about it. We started putting defenses on wristbands. Then you find a way to not get caught (signals compromised). When your good at something and people try steal from ya, I think it’s flattering.”






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(01-16-2018, 12:18 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: Lots of things floating around in this thread. Just a few I wanted to address.

1. The whole cheating thing. Yeah there’s been some “smoke” but when it comes down it to it, Brady and Belichick have had a run that merits respect. I don’t imagine theyeve succeeded only because of “cheating”  and that’s playing devils advocate and assuming that the “smoke” is true. So I see no need to harp on that.

2. Brady can throw the deep ball if he has a threat, but I feel his bread and butter is the precise throws in the underneath and intermediate areas. That is what this defense will have to guard against. Especially with Gronkowski. As someone said earlier it may have to be a bend don’t break approach. Give up some yards but lock down in the red zone and hopefully draw some field goals.

3. Yes Coughlin knows this team. And it makes sense now why he built a team on defense that doesn’t blitz often, but instead relies on rushing only 4 to get home. Brady will make you pay for blitzing as often he can read the defense, know where it’s coming from and target that weak spot. If we blitz we better make it disguised and hope it gets home.

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(01-16-2018, 12:12 PM)JNev Wrote: Just when you thought you couldn’t hate Pats fans more... They can’t be content to be superior and just be humble about it. They have to come onto other team’s message boards with their spin doctor takes on obvious cheating and the talent on their roster. I lol’ed so much at the notion that their Defense is the best in the NFL because since an arbitrary point in the season they have done blah blah blah. Gtfoh

There’s bad apples in every bunch. I’ve met some nice and humble ones who know that eventually the run will have to end.

I'm 41 and grew up sitting on metal bleachers and watching a mediocre to bad product before Kraft rescued the situation, so older fans are well aware of the score here. It's the Millennial fans that are the ones who don't know any different, who were essentially born into a very good franchise and a then a dynasty.

Pats fans just look for fairness in debates, instead of the typical Goodell-led trolling of our franchise due to jealousy and lack of parity.

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