(01-16-2018, 11:20 AM)jagshype Wrote:

(01-16-2018, 10:51 AM)TyLawsPick6 Wrote: While Coughlin has had a nice career, Steve Spagnuolo was responsible for the SB 42 defensive effort, which was a massive fail by McDaniels and all the offensive coaches involved.

In 2011, in SB 46, the Pats yet again through it away with lack of execution plays or bad decisions. 

It's really nothing special that Coughlin personally did.  That rhetoric has got to be the most inconsequential piece of information I've heard so far this week.

If Asante Samuel catches an easy INT or Welker simply holds on, Coughlin is seen as a mediocre coach with zero SB rings, so let's not oversell something that has absolutely zero to do with 2017 and the AFC Title game on Sunday.

Coughlin was about to be fired if they didn't make the playoffs in 2007. Nice response and he certainly deserves kudos for what those defenses did, absolutely. But, if you're relying on a team like NE's 2011 team that was being rebuilt off a Lockout, with no mini camp or summer camp, that's not the same kind of a situation here.

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No, it's about money. That's how the world work$. Welcome to reality.

I dont think most Jags fan see Coughlin as an X factor from an x's and o's standpoint.
But more of a factor in setting the tone for the team from a preparedness level. Just letting the team know what to expect from an intensity level and reinforcing the attention to detail.
Obviously he will give Marrone some tips but I think Coughlin's value is more towards his "aura" and omnipresence

This is the point.

(01-16-2018, 11:21 AM)Boston_Prince Wrote:

(01-15-2018, 11:44 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: The wildcard here is Tom Coughlin...he's proven to beat the formula that is the Patriots and he is an interesting piece to the puzzle.  He's not the coach but he's in charge.  

This is going to be a hard hitting affair.  I hope Brady is ready to be put on his [BLEEP] a few times.

Coughlin is an offensive minded coach, unless Spagzz is coaching there, not that much of an issue. Also, its not like they blew the Pats out in those SBs, came down to a couple of crazy plays that would never happen again. This point is moot. 

That being said, Jags have a great defense and an "ok" offense (Fournette, mostly) but are a solid team all around. The offense feeds off of your amazing defense with its explosiveness, especially when they account for alot of the TDs your team scored this year. That's what Bortles needs because he doesn't score much on his own, with his arm. This game will be a good one, great offense versus a great defense mostly. People keep selling the Pats defense short, they've held teams to the least amount of points the last couple months, and that constitutes a good defense to me.

Most of my point wasn't necessarily X's and O's in terms of Coughlin and the Pats.  Coughlin brings more from an attitude, preparation, etc.  He helped change the attitude around this team and that can't be discounted.  He's been in these situations before too.  Don't get me wrong, I think this is Marrone's team and he will be the one making the decisions this week but the year long influence of Tom Coughlin can't be ignored either.

This game is going to be tougher than most think.  The Jags have no chance of winning this game easy but they have an us vs the world mentality combined with young, hungry talent that can be dangerous against anyone.  When the Jaguars defense is on it's game this team CAN beat the Patriots and anyone else in front of them.

Your OL better be ready for relentless pressure.  Pitt did a good job of containing them last week for most of the game but these boys are going to have an even larger chip on their shoulder than normal.

One key that I think we will have trouble with is running the ball and that's going to have to happen.  Your run defense is stout and we will ride the run game/play action game hard.

I live in a part of the country where I don't get to see many Patriot games though I have great respect for the GOAT and Bill Belichick.

How does your defense do against play action?  That seems to be what Bortles thrives with but it also is reliant on getting the run game going which won't be easy against your defense.

How does your defense do against mobile QBs?  Bortles is deceptively mobile for a QB of his size and he can extend drives (we've seen it in both post season games this year too) with his legs when he has to.

Here's to a clean, hard hitting game with no injuries on either side.

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