(01-17-2018, 10:01 AM)Bullseye Wrote:

(01-17-2018, 08:59 AM)Krayz_Jville_D Wrote: http://www.espn.com/blog/jacksonville-ja...-was-hired

I mean, if he was here last year, I dont think we would be in the AFC championship, but I guarantee you we would have won 7 or 8 games, that's without this year's FA haul

you guys can continue to defend your crazy views from years past where you were A OK with perpetual ineptitude at the coaching position and GM position before that, but it doesn't change the facts around the NFL.... only perennial losers continue to "rebuild" and continue to lose... teams with good leaders can turn things around in a single off season or 2 and the examples are plentiful and way more abundant than they are supporting the rest of your views where its OK to suck for 4 years

this isn't the NBA, where tanking ACTUALLY IS the ONLY way to improve because its a star driven league with very few of them, and now they only go to super teams already having stars.  The NFL has the most parity of any league in the world for a reason.  Coaching/scheme, etc matters so much more in football

So you are telling us that you'd rather have a 7-8 win season and not reach the AFC Championship (or more) the next year as opposed to a 3 win season and reaching the AFC championship game (or more) the next year?

Who is settling for mediocrity again?

(01-17-2018, 11:18 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:

(01-17-2018, 10:01 AM)Bullseye Wrote: So you are telling us that you'd rather have a 7-8 win season and not reach the AFC Championship (or more) the next year as opposed to a 3 win season and reaching the AFC championship game (or more) the next year?

Who is settling for mediocrity again?

We're not in the AFC Championship game this year without our 2017 draft class as well which we wouldn't have been able to draft with 7 or 8 wins last year.  Sure, we can hope and pray we would have had the foresight to get a guy like Kamara (if he would even have success in this type of offense) or something in the 2nd, but that's pure speculation.  Winning 7 or 8 last year assures us we don't get Fournette or Robinson unless we trade a ton of current and future draft capital to trade up to get those guys which is still speculating that it would have been possible to do so.

But it's a 1 year rebuild now and the exception is now the rule apparently for some.  Classic over reaction to and misinterpretation of a set of facts by Krayz.

The truth?  You can get somewhat competitive in a shorter period of time than what the Jags did by reloading instead of rebuilding.  Caldwell didn't have to jettison so many vets when he came in, but I don't feel like we'd be in an AFC Championship game this week had he not done that.  What the Jags did was a true rebuild that should result in years of regular playoff appearances for Jacksonville based on the age of the core of this team.  True rebuilds can't be accomplished in 1 or 2 years unless you have lottery winner type luck.  You don't hold lottery winners up as an example of how to get rich.  What Krayz is advocating is building for flash in the pan success, not sustained success.  What this team did this past 12 months (aside from getting very fortunate with one of the best free agency hauls in league history) is amazing, but it was built on the back of what really started 3 years prior.  What the Jags have done is a blueprint in process and patience, but just like anything in the NFL there's still always an element of luck involved.