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Jaguarmeister · 01-17-2018, 12:12 PM

(01-17-2018, 11:29 AM)Krayz_Jville_D Wrote:
(01-17-2018, 10:01 AM)Bullseye Wrote: So you are telling us that you'd rather have a 7-8 win season and not reach the AFC Championship (or more) the next year as opposed to a 3 win season and reaching the AFC championship game (or more) the next year?

Who is settling for mediocrity again?

what?? where in the world did I even imply such a thing???

(01-17-2018, 11:18 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: We're not in the AFC Championship game this year without our 2017 draft class as well which we wouldn't have been able to draft with 7 or 8 wins last year. Sure, we can hope and pray we would have had the foresight to get a guy like Kamara (if he would even have success in this type of offense) or something in the 2nd, but that's pure speculation. Winning 7 or 8 last year assures us we don't get Fournette or Robinson unless we trade a ton of current and future draft capital to trade up to get those guys which is still speculating that it would have been possible to do so.

But it's a 1 year rebuild now and the exception is now the rule apparently for some. Classic over reaction to and misinterpretation of a set of facts by Krayz.

The truth? You can get somewhat competitive in a shorter period of time than what the Jags did by reloading instead of rebuilding. Caldwell didn't have to jettison so many vets when he came in, but I don't feel like we'd be in an AFC Championship game this week had he not done that. What the Jags did was a true rebuild that should result in years of regular playoff appearances for Jacksonville based on the age of the core of this team. True rebuilds can't be accomplished in 1 or 2 years unless you have lottery winner type luck. You don't hold lottery winners up as an example of how to get rich. What Krayz is advocating is building for flash in the pan success, not sustained success. What this team did this past 12 months (aside from getting very fortunate with one of the best free agency hauls in league history) is amazing, but it was built on the back of what really started 3 years prior. What the Jags have done is a blueprint in process and patience, but just like anything in the NFL there's still always an element of luck involved.

the jags can have this same roster, and without coughlin and with gus at coach we would not have made the playoffs, that is the truth

A coaching change often coincides with rebuilding, but that's not what happened here. Everything stayed the same, they didn't jettison players this past offseason or rebuild anything. They doubled down on their process. You used the phrase "truth about rebuilds" as your title and now you're talking specifically about a coaching change being the driving factor once you were challenged on your point. At best, that's moving the goal posts.