(01-17-2018, 10:59 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(01-16-2018, 11:46 PM)Jagfan44 Wrote: TJ, I understand some of the points that you are making and to an extent I agree. Perhaps Trump's comments were not the most appropriate, definitely not presidential but as many have said on here, it's hard to really disagree.

As for Haiti, I am not sure where you live, I don't know anything about you, you could be from Haiti. If you are, or whoever you are, that makes you no less of a person and IMO this is the mindset of most conservatives, I do not dislike or judge people as individuals.

However, when you see the same things over and over and over from the same groups of people, it becomes a little difficult not to expect the same.

Again I mention this but I am not sure where you are from, but take a trip to South Florida. Deal with some Haitians, deal with them your whole life like I have. Then come back and tell me that it is some coincidence or chain of bad events that their country looks that way that it does. 

This is petty but it is a great example of the ridiculousness. I have a mango tree in my front yard. This year I did not have the pleasure of eating one delicious juicy mango, that grew in my yard, because Haitians took them all. The neighbor down the street had a huge mango tree that he had to cut down because Haitians kept climbing the tree to get the mangos. It is obviously a liability at this point so he had no choice but to cut it down. This is just one example but all of these things ultimately lead to land value decrease. But who does this? Normal people have a standard and that standard does not involve climbing other people's trees to pick mangos.

I know to some it sounds racist that I say "Haitians" did this, but it is the absolute truth. What group of civilized people act like this? In my predicament, would I rather have neighbors who are from Norway, or from Haiti?

Well, I hate to tell you this, but if I lived near a mango tree, I might have me some of those mangos too.  I love mangos.