(01-19-2018, 01:18 PM)spacecoastjag Wrote: (01-19-2018, 12:52 PM)jagsfan1983 Wrote: I'm not sure Cousins is a guaranteed upgrade. In his 25 and 26 year old seasons he threw for 14 touchdowns and 16 interceptions with a QB rating of 74.3. Even this season (29 years old) his Total QBR was lower than Bortles. 0-2 in the playoffs with a rating lower than Bortles. Bortles is also without a #1 receiver and or a decent tight end. Could Cousins turn out better than Bortles going forward? Maybe, but it is far from a certainty. People get on Bortles for turning it over. His career INT % is 2.9. Kirk Cousins at age 26 had a career 4.7% INT %.
People on this board will say ANY QB is an upgrade. Tebow, Kaepernick, Cousins, Joe Nameth.....they don't have a clue.
Bortles career path is better than any QB the Jags can acquire.
(01-19-2018, 12:54 PM)Kane Wrote: This is just wrong. Sure there were always some "Never Bortles" type folks...
But for his first 3 seasons, most people bent over backwards to give Bortles the benefit of the doubt.
Including many of the people that decided in the preseason this year Bortles wasn't "the guy".
But whatever... keep banging that drum for ya boy.
No they didn't. You're out of your mind.
When Bortles was 2nd in the NFL in TD passes at age 23 (been done once ever in history of NFL at that age), with no help around him (Luke Joeckel and Toby Gerhart hahaha) there were people wondering why he ONLY performs in garbage time when the defense was #32 in scoring defense. It's embarrassing how ignorant fans are here. The entire team was ALWAYS in garbage time because they were giving up 51 points to Mariota and 36 to EJ Manuel.
Plenty of crow to eat for everyone.
You're a damn liar.
First, you showed up in October of 2015.
Bortles rookie year was 2014, everyone loved him because he showed he could move the offense Henne could not.
In 2015, Bortles' stats exploded. TDs were way up but so were INTs, but still everyone loved that he was taking his next step. Only the raunchiest of detractors were using the "garbage time" excuse at this point.
Many many many posters on here figured we had found our guy and he was just gonna go up from there.
Then 2016 happened. This is the year he started losing supporters. The fire everybody train started up. Gus, Dave, Bortles were all targets...
But even in 2016 there were some of us still saying "give the guy time, the team around him isn't quite there"
There's no crow needed... cuz Bortles still hasn't shown that he can be a game changing QB (outside of in a negative way with INTs).
He HAS shown that with the right cast and a solid game plan he can manage the hell out of a game and make a couple throws to put up points. Perhaps he continues to improve, which is most people's hope.
You've claimed the entire time that he's some franchise changing QB. He's not. I don't disagree he was dealt a [BLEEP] roster... but your love fest with the guy is borderline unhealthy.
And your claims that everyone always bagged on him are way way off base.
You're delusional.
You should probably seek help.
