(02-02-2018, 01:20 AM)leopold332002 Wrote:

(02-02-2018, 01:06 AM)Upper Wrote: Don't count the first 2 seasons when he started 8 games playing out the string for losing teams. His record in the 3 seasons where he has started is 24-23-1 with a very poor supporting cast. For evidence, his team defenses have ranked 27th, 28th, and 28th in points allowed over those 3 seasons. He has basically carried them to .500 records with a comparable supporting cast to what Bortles had while carrying us to top 5 picks.

Okay if you want to play that game then don't count Blake Bortles first three seasons of his career when he had to work would 9 rookies his rookie year, and had a bozo of a coach and offensive coordinators and Lord how did we forget about our horrible defenses we had the first 2 years of his career but it's okay for you to blame didn't know our shortcomings to him but 4 Kirk Cousins let's disregard that to make our stance on him more desirable to everyone.

It's honestly pointless man. We're better off trying to pound sand. Their tones change by the day, week by week. I'm done wasting my time on this Bortles merry-go-round.

If we throw a god awful amount of money at Cousins, that's fine. But it's at min 12+ wins and Super Bowl, or bust for every single season that he's here. Plain and simple. No excuses, nothing.

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(02-02-2018, 01:26 AM)Upper Wrote:

(02-02-2018, 01:20 AM)leopold332002 Wrote: Okay if you want to play that game then don't count Blake Bortles first three seasons of his career when he had to work would 9 rookies his rookie year, and had a bozo of a coach and offensive coordinators and Lord how did we forget about our horrible defenses we had the first 2 years of his career but it's okay for you to blame didn't know our shortcomings to him but 4 Kirk Cousins let's disregard that to make our stance on him more desirable to everyone.

Ignoring 8 starts spread out over the end of 2 seasons is not even close to the same as ignoring 3 full seasons. If you're wanting to have a discussion about this let's try to keep it somewhat honest please.

Also, I said Bortles supporting cast was bad I wasn't throwing it out. Statistically they were just as bad as Cousins. They were both forced to carry an inordinate amount. Even playing fields. The difference is Cousins dragged his awful supporting cast to a slightly above .500 record. Bortles carried his awful supporting cast to 3 top 5 picks.

This roster was expansion level bad when Bortles took over are you joking? Jesus Christ. Even playing fields... LOL.

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