(02-08-2018, 11:53 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(02-08-2018, 11:33 AM)leopold332002 Wrote: That's where we different because you actually think Kirk Cousins is a franchise quarterback when the evidence say otherwise especially when he can't carry his team into the playoffs. True franchise quarterback can do that under the same circumstances but Kirk Cousins hasn't shown he can do those things especially in clutch moments.

I don't think he said Cousins is a franchise QB. There is only like 3 or 4 in the whole league. And that means, a QB who can lead their team to the playoffs with little help.

There a plenty of very good QBs who, if put in the right situation, can lead their team to a title. I think Cousins is one of those QBs.

If the team pursues Cousins, they're going to have to pay him like he's a franchise QB.  I think people are putting way too much stock in a guy who is really a marginal upgrade over Bortles, and paying him like he's a Brady or Rogers.  There's a lot of risk involved in such an upgrade. 

(02-08-2018, 12:51 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: One year option for #5 and draft a guy early to potentially take over in 2019.

When the dust settles, I think this is the most likely scenario.  Bortles has progressed, and I don't think we've seen his ceiling yet.  At $19 million, he'll be a bargain in comparison unless he takes a step back.  

(02-08-2018, 03:08 PM)Upper Wrote:

(02-08-2018, 02:53 PM)JagJohn Wrote: Obviously, Blake becoming a franchise top 10 NFL QB is a terrible option. It would be such a disaster if our QB that we drafted and developed, who knows the system and is respected by his teammates improves.

Do you recall how close we came this season? The "reward" if Blake takes a significant step forward is probably winning a Superbowl.

You are seriously overthinking things.

I think you're underthinking it. If Blake takes a step forward he will be around Cousins level, that's great but not any better than just signing Cousins now. Hence no reward.

If he doesn't then we wasted another year and next offseason we're right back to questioning what we're going to do about a franchise QB.

Why take that gamble? Just sign Cousins now and remove the wasted year option.

So, pay Cousins $30 million per year for potentially the same production we might get from Bortles at a third the price?

(02-08-2018, 03:27 PM)JagJohn Wrote:

(02-08-2018, 03:08 PM)Upper Wrote: I think you're underthinking it. If Blake takes a step forward he will be around Cousins level, that's great but not any better than just signing Cousins now. Hence no reward.

If he doesn't then we wasted another year and next offseason we're right back to questioning what we're going to do about a franchise QB.

Why take that gamble? Just sign Cousins now and remove the wasted year option.

Personally I think giving the richest contract in NFL history to a QB who has shown to be marginally better than average is a much bigger gamble. I know you're gonna throw some stats at me, but watching Cousins play he simply is not 'elite'. I'm not willing to put all my eggs in that basket.

Let Blake start on the 19mil, and draft a rookie high to develop behind him, that's my preferred approach.

Agreed.  Despite all the love for Cousins, there are no guarantees he'd be a big enough upgrade over Bortles to warrant a contract that would be at or near the biggest in the league.  Wait until Rodgers gets a new contract, and the bar will be set even higher for Cousins.  He's not worth that kind of money in my opinion, and the team would ultimately have fewer resources to continue adding weapons around him.

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