(02-09-2018, 06:51 PM)Gettin\ Jaggy with it Wrote:

(02-09-2018, 06:26 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I don't think so. I just pulled up a trade value chart from 2014 and it has the same value points as the one from this year. Not to mention that we would be giving them 3 potential veteran starters and I may have undervalued them. To a team like the Colts who are desperate for any type of starters outside of QB, they would be worth their weight in gold. I really do think everything would even out and that's if we went all the way up to #3. You never know. We may not even have to trade up that far. Say the Browns decide on taking Allen or Darnold, the Giants decide to keep Manning and address OT with the #2 pick, opting to wait until rounds 2 or 3 to address QB and Denver trades for Kirk Cousins. That would only leave us to worry about the Jets selecting either Rosen or Mayfield and we potentially wouldn't have to trade up inside the top 10. We could do a deal with anyone from Pick #11 to #14 (Miami, Cincinnati, Washington or Green Bay), to stay ahead of Arizona and select whichever QB the Jets didn't take.

The trade value charts are the same from year to year, since they are based on Jimmie Johnson's charts from the 90's. What I am saying is that for the 2018 draft, the 29th pick for the 2019 draft is not worth 640 points. In the 2019 draft, it will be. Teams expect a heavy premium if they are giving away current draft value for future draft value. For example, if we wanted someone's round 2 pick this year straight up, say pick 79 (round 2 #15), they would want a mid-round 1 in 2019 in compensation. It doesn't always follow as neatly as the trade value chart indicates, of course, but future picks never carry nearly the same weight of current picks.

Your scenario of moving up to #11-14 is definitely more palatable as it entails about 1000 less trade points, and the draft has a reasonable chance of falling that way.

From what I've been reading, Rosen does not want to go to Cleveland and I believe he wouldn't report, much like Eli Manning did to San Diego, forcing a trade with the Giants. I've also been reading that the new Giants HC is a big fan of Eli Manning and wants to work on stabilizing the offensive line before making a judgement on his current QB. Denver is said to be all in on Kirk Cousins, so things are starting to look a little more positive than they were a few weeks ago.

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