(02-27-2018, 05:26 PM)JackCity Wrote:

(02-27-2018, 03:54 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Sure it is. Obviously wasn't that much of a big deal to the NFL because he wasn't suspended for any of the above situations. Tons of speeding tickets? Whoooooaaaaaaa man. Whooooooaaaaaa. We've got a bad apple there. And how do you know about that regarding Calais Campbell? Just because he hasn't been busted or caught doesn't mean he's some type of Saint... that's a terrible assumption. Marvin Harrison was considered a silent saint during his career with the clots and he was linked to a shooting outside a bar in Philadelphia at one point during or post his career. 

Ray Lewis was linked to a double murder yet it's rarely mentioned today and other than that incident he was considered a decent player on and off the field. Same can be said for Jimmy Smith here in Jacksonville where he had maybe one or two run ins with being busted for cocaine yet he had been doing it during his career for apparently a long time. 

And it is holier than thou to make such claims because I can assure you not all of us are perfect or saints around here and it's easier to crucify somebody at a young age that probably sees more money up front in ONE day compared to what some of us will be lucky to see in ONE lifetime. You also compared him to Campbell. A guy that's over 30 now to a kid, whose not even 24 and had all of those issues occur two years ago when he was barely old enough to drink. Poor comparison. And I am not absolving Dante from being a bonehead with a few spotty decisions here and there. But people act like he's been suspended for multiple games by the NFL and he's some headcase like Justin Blackmon or that dirt bag at DE that got another chance in Dallas....

Holy moly. You need to relax a little bit. No idea how you took all of this from me saying his off the field stuff is "not good at all".    

You are the only one here bringing up murderers. Nobody is crucifying him. Nobody is saying he's some kind of scumbag. Simply that there are off the field issues.  

Don't take someone saying he has off the field concerns as as a huge character assassination. It's not. It's not holier than thou to comment on a players off the field history either. Calling a guy like Blackmon (who unfortunately was a terrible alcoholic) a head-case does sound holier than thou to me though. 

By all accounts he's a great personality and really worked his [BLEEP] off this offseason/season. As another poster said his issues are more to do with maturity and poor judgement than anything else.

And the Calais comparison was simply to do with the nature of the incident with the two ladies. It wasn't illegal. It wasn't even that "bad". It's just some people have a habit of getting in poor situations. Calais would be an example of a guy I'd consider to be pretty good at avoiding "poor situations" for himself.

Most alcoholics have a mental issue and turn to the bottle to drink something away or completely off their minds. As most addicts do with whatever they're addicted to. He had a problem and Gene Smith got duped by Tampa Bay's front office at the time after they saw him go into the same bar too many times in one week. That's not a "holier than thou" statement though. Holier than thou is saying that you, as an individual, are somehow better or morally less corruptible than the next man or woman who are all battling personal demons, etc. 

That was my point. People throwing stones at this kid for something that's happened a year or two ago when he's still a kid mentally. He'll be 24 right around when pre-season starts and he missed his entire rookie year while seeing a guy like Ngakoue come in and handle business on the field last year better than he could. So I am sure there's a lot going on through his head and he's probably had a few lapses in maturity because he's just that, a kid. 

But I think he'll get it. He seems to be getting it now.

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