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Fowler vs Williams

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(02-28-2018, 12:31 AM)Jags02 Wrote:
(02-28-2018, 12:13 AM)JUNGLE CAT 2017 Wrote: We had the the number three over-all in 2015. We could have taken that and given up the pick we used on Ramsey in 2016 to move up two slots. Bortles would be traded, or retained as a back-up.

What's gross is somewhere around the end of 2014 we were actually winning the battle of draft position. Nuts. We had to win for "pride". Like a team that bad had ANY sense of pride not knocked out of their ear holes...

Winston's contract is up after this coming season. There seems to be a fifth year option available.


That would have been worse tho. I'd rather have Bortles and Ramsey than Winston.

Not necessarily. 

With the arrival of Winston in 2015, Bortles could have been traded away for a first round pick. Given that Winston probably wouldn't  zoom into the playoffs, we'd likely still be dispensed a batch of high number picks for 2016. Plus the team which received Bortles for their first rounder might yield a top five selection for us anyhow.

Even if Bortles was converted into a second round pick that would have given us two really high ones in 2016. It would be a matter of how much buying power do two very high  second round picks have? After we picked Jaylen the next CB came off the board at 1-10. 

Ramsey was held in a quite different light back then. Athletically, Jaylen was a top five pick, but positionally most of the NFL did have reservations of some kind. About half of the NFL believed he was a free safety. Those usually don't draft so high. The other half believed it was possible he could play corner back, but they were NOT sold on him due to feelings he lacked ball skills many of the other top corner prospects had demonstrated. The last time a corner back was top five was Patrick Peterson in 2011. 

I think we might have been able to pair two firsts for Winston in 2015. The hardest part would be finding a team for Bortles. That's the dang thing about over-drafting to fill a need. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Apparently, Cinderella's evil step-sisters always had dates on Saturday nights. So the story goes.
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Fowler vs Williams - by JagFanatic24 - 02-27-2018, 06:08 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Achilles - 02-27-2018, 06:37 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by JagFanatic24 - 02-27-2018, 06:58 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by ATLjag - 02-27-2018, 07:03 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Upper - 02-27-2018, 07:42 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by SuperJville - 02-27-2018, 07:46 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by JackCity - 02-27-2018, 08:02 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Cleatwood - 02-27-2018, 08:11 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by flgatorsandjags - 02-27-2018, 08:14 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by rufftime - 02-27-2018, 08:47 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by TheDogCatcher - 02-27-2018, 12:25 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by HandsomeRob86 - 02-28-2018, 05:33 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by imtheblkranger - 02-27-2018, 09:30 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by flsprtsgod - 02-27-2018, 10:18 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Caldrac - 02-27-2018, 02:42 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by jaglou53 - 02-27-2018, 09:10 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by JUNGLE CAT 2017 - 02-28-2018, 12:22 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by HURRICANE!!! - 03-01-2018, 08:39 PM
Fowler vs Williams - by Andy G - 02-27-2018, 02:29 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Caldrac - 02-27-2018, 02:35 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by JackCity - 02-27-2018, 03:48 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Caldrac - 02-27-2018, 03:54 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by JackCity - 02-27-2018, 05:26 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Caldrac - 02-27-2018, 06:37 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by JackCity - 02-27-2018, 06:39 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by The_Franchise_QB - 02-27-2018, 03:19 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by RedRooster28 - 02-27-2018, 03:44 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by The_Franchise_QB - 02-27-2018, 03:58 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by rufftime - 02-27-2018, 04:44 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Caldrac - 02-27-2018, 06:21 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by flsprtsgod - 02-28-2018, 07:18 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Senor Fantastico - 02-27-2018, 04:47 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by oQuarterback - 02-27-2018, 05:24 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Jags02 - 02-27-2018, 07:03 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by flgatorsandjags - 02-27-2018, 07:10 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Jags02 - 02-27-2018, 07:14 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by flgatorsandjags - 02-27-2018, 07:45 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by JUNGLE CAT 2017 - 02-27-2018, 08:17 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Jags02 - 02-27-2018, 09:07 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by JUNGLE CAT 2017 - 02-28-2018, 12:13 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by realtorpat - 02-28-2018, 12:25 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Achilles - 02-28-2018, 01:07 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Jags02 - 02-28-2018, 12:31 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by JUNGLE CAT 2017 - 02-28-2018, 03:38 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by JNev - 02-28-2018, 01:45 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Dakota - 03-01-2018, 07:05 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by TheBigDawg - 02-28-2018, 07:07 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by flsprtsgod - 02-28-2018, 07:23 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by RicoTx - 02-28-2018, 08:13 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by flsprtsgod - 02-28-2018, 08:32 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by RicoTx - 02-28-2018, 08:35 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by flsprtsgod - 02-28-2018, 10:57 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by rufftime - 02-28-2018, 08:52 AM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Hard_Eight - 03-01-2018, 03:54 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Setsuna00 - 03-01-2018, 05:06 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by rocdee - 03-01-2018, 05:07 PM
RE: Fowler vs Williams - by Jags02 - 03-01-2018, 07:13 PM



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