Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel

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Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel

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01-14-2014, 01:01 PM

Quote:Well...maybe so.....but I keep going back to the example I showed from the 1980's when the Cardinals was relegated to the NFC East which was a VERY tough environment with lots of great coaches and other good teams. We are pretty much in Arizona's place in terms of where they were as a team, and now the Colts, Texans and Titans seem to be making the right moves to put them into the Redskins, Cowboys and Giants categories.....

How'd that work out for Arizona, having to try to win in that environment??

You can call me anything that makes you feel better. Its not going to take away the good point I'm making here.

The above Example isn't an equal one. Belichick is already on top and has been on top for a decade. Thats a TOTALLY different mindset/ situation than what we have here. We're much closer to 1980s Arizona (then St Louis) than current Patriots.

You're trying to spin this by sourcing a situation in the pre-salary cap era in order to push your agenda? Classic.

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 12:53 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Cleatwood - 01-13-2014, 12:55 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 12:56 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by bleedingteal - 01-13-2014, 12:58 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 01:02 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JagFanatic24 - 01-13-2014, 01:03 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by StroudCrowd1 - 01-13-2014, 01:06 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Cleatwood - 01-13-2014, 01:07 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 01:07 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by The Mad Dog - 01-13-2014, 01:07 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Cleatwood - 01-13-2014, 01:08 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by StroudCrowd1 - 01-13-2014, 01:08 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 01:10 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by KYjaggy - 01-13-2014, 01:10 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Cleatwood - 01-13-2014, 01:11 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by The Eleventh Doctor - 01-13-2014, 01:12 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by StroudCrowd1 - 01-13-2014, 01:12 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 01:13 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by knarnn - 01-13-2014, 01:13 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Cleatwood - 01-13-2014, 01:15 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 01:19 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by The Mad Dog - 01-13-2014, 01:20 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 01:22 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Cleatwood - 01-13-2014, 01:23 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by StroudCrowd1 - 01-13-2014, 01:23 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by RicoTx - 01-13-2014, 01:29 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by The Eleventh Doctor - 01-13-2014, 01:30 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by trunt87 - 01-13-2014, 01:30 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 01:34 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by UConnUCFjags - 01-13-2014, 01:41 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 02:07 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Kotite - 01-13-2014, 02:08 PM

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Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Fred Jones-Brunell - 01-13-2014, 02:14 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 02:16 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 02:17 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Haterade - 01-13-2014, 02:23 PM

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Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 02:28 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Achilles - 01-13-2014, 02:30 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by The Mad Dog - 01-13-2014, 02:32 PM

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Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Jinjo - 01-13-2014, 02:34 PM

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Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by RicoTx - 01-13-2014, 02:37 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by bleedingteal - 01-13-2014, 02:40 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by The Mad Dog - 01-13-2014, 02:41 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by The Mad Dog - 01-13-2014, 02:42 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by The Mad Dog - 01-13-2014, 02:45 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by MoJo44 - 01-13-2014, 03:00 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by bleedingteal - 01-13-2014, 03:02 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by The Mad Dog - 01-13-2014, 03:12 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by RicoTx - 01-13-2014, 03:14 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by The Mad Dog - 01-13-2014, 03:15 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by BlueEyedJag - 01-13-2014, 03:24 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by bleedingteal - 01-13-2014, 03:34 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by The Mad Dog - 01-13-2014, 04:28 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 05:49 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by HURRICANE!!! - 01-13-2014, 05:55 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by areed018 - 01-13-2014, 06:03 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 06:06 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by HiggyJ15 - 01-13-2014, 06:07 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 06:08 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 06:11 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by KYjaggy - 01-13-2014, 06:12 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by knarnn - 01-13-2014, 06:15 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 06:23 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Achilles - 01-13-2014, 06:27 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by HiggyJ15 - 01-13-2014, 06:27 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by bleedingteal - 01-13-2014, 06:35 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by KYjaggy - 01-13-2014, 06:35 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Jaguars28fan - 01-13-2014, 06:50 PM

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Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Cleatwood - 01-13-2014, 07:03 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by JaguarsWoman - 01-13-2014, 07:04 PM

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Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Cleatwood - 01-13-2014, 07:20 PM

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Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Cleatwood - 01-13-2014, 09:54 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by HolsterHusto - 01-13-2014, 09:55 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by MoJo44 - 01-13-2014, 10:01 PM

Browns apparently want Johnny Manziel - by Haterade - 01-13-2014, 10:01 PM

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