(03-21-2018, 02:41 PM)JackCity Wrote:

(03-21-2018, 02:12 PM)pirkster Wrote: Again, his deficiencies are coachable, as opposed to a guy like Lauletta.

He doesn't have much experience at the position, making him a great candidate for a team that doesn't have a day 1 need to start him.

If you can't make all the throws, or struggle at some of them, you're a limiting QB.  He's certainly not that guy.  He's also not a QB that will struggle to execute an NFL playbook.

I like Mayfield as much as any QB in the class, but his height is concerning.  I think he can play around it like Russel Wilson.  But that keeps him from being "can't miss."

I don't think any of these QBs are "can't miss," but I think some consider the top of this class as that.  That's why I also think Allen may surprise some.  I don't see any of these rookie QBs without challenges first year.

Accuracy = footwork.  Very fixable.

If we're looking for a backup to groom into a future starter, we've got only a couple choices.  Wait and see if Rudolph or Jackson are available at 29, or possibly move up to get Allen (unless someone takes him early.)  I think Allen is a better talent than the others, but I'm not opposed to waiting on the others.  I just believe that if we truly value Allen and there's a chance to get him, we'd have to move up to do it.  I see Rudolph and Jackson being longer shots to become something more than a backup or bridge at best.  I see Allen with more potential than that.  There are no guarantees with anybody.  Just look at the clots and their "HOF" QB who hasn't thrown a pass in who knows how long.

"If you can't make all the throws, or struggle at some of them, you're a limiting QB.  He's certainly not that guy.  He's also not a QB that will struggle to execute an NFL playbook."   

I see where you are coming from but I don't agree with it all. He has the arm to make all the throws yet consistently fails to complete basic tasks. That's limiting. So far we have seen him struggle to execute Bohl's pared down power scheme against poor opposition. He's one of the biggest projections mentally out of the QBs this year.  

 
"Accuracy = footwork.  Very fixable"  

Footwork is one of the easier things to fix. Accuracy is not. There have been no franchise QBs the modern NFL who had accuracy as bad as Allen in college. 56% makes him a massive outlier. Even Stafford hit 61% his final year in the SEC.  Favre and Marino had similar low accuracy in college but also played college ball in the 80s.  

The rest I don't have an issue with really. There aren't any "can't miss" QBs this year and history tells us there is probably a max of 2 actual franchise guys. Allen to me has way more barriers to success than the rest of the guys.  If he was a 3/4/5 round pick I'd be fine with him as a ball of clay you can mold.

"...consistently fails to complete basic tasks."
This sounds like straight hyperbole to me.  If not, please elaborate using specific examples and explain why what it is you're referring to (you're very vague here) isn't coachable/correctable.

Again, footwork IS accuracy.  You can't say footwork is correctable but accuracy is not.  Accuracy follows footwork.

He's only got two years under his belt.  He does need work behind a starter.  Sounds to me his only issue is having someone dedicate to coaching his footwork and decision making.  From everything I've seen, his issues come from those two things alone.  Much easier to work on and fix those items when you're not asked to start day one.

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