(03-21-2018, 03:02 PM)pirkster Wrote: (03-21-2018, 02:41 PM)JackCity Wrote: "If you can't make all the throws, or struggle at some of them, you're a limiting QB. He's certainly not that guy. He's also not a QB that will struggle to execute an NFL playbook."
I see where you are coming from but I don't agree with it all. He has the arm to make all the throws yet consistently fails to complete basic tasks. That's limiting. So far we have seen him struggle to execute Bohl's pared down power scheme against poor opposition. He's one of the biggest projections mentally out of the QBs this year.
"Accuracy = footwork. Very fixable"
Footwork is one of the easier things to fix. Accuracy is not. There have been no franchise QBs the modern NFL who had accuracy as bad as Allen in college. 56% makes him a massive outlier. Even Stafford hit 61% his final year in the SEC. Favre and Marino had similar low accuracy in college but also played college ball in the 80s.
The rest I don't have an issue with really. There aren't any "can't miss" QBs this year and history tells us there is probably a max of 2 actual franchise guys. Allen to me has way more barriers to success than the rest of the guys. If he was a 3/4/5 round pick I'd be fine with him as a ball of clay you can mold.
"...consistently fails to complete basic tasks."
This sounds like straight hyperbole to me. If not, please elaborate using specific examples and explain why what it is you're referring to (you're very vague here) isn't coachable/correctable.
Again, footwork IS accuracy. You can't say footwork is correctable but accuracy is not. Accuracy follows footwork.
He's only got two years under his belt. He does need work behind a starter. Sounds to me his only issue is having someone dedicate to coaching his footwork and decision making. From everything I've seen, his issues come from those two things alone. Much easier to work on and fix those items when you're not asked to start day one.
He doesn't throw with anticipation on out routes, he doesn't throw with anticipation on MOF routes. His inaccuracy in the short game is consistent. He doesn't feel pressure well which makes every 3rd and long an adventure. He doesn't flow through his reads quick enough to take advantage of windows. He's turnover prone.
And I'm not sure where I said they weren't correctable or coachable. Just that they are inherently limiting for him as a QB. And then you also said he'd have no problem running an NFL scheme, when all we have seen is him struggling to run a fairly simplistic scheme in college against bad opposition , albeit called "pro style" because he snaps the ball under center occasionally. He's a big projection, more so then the rest of the top guys.
Which NFL concepts do you see him executing well at the college level?
I'm afraid it's not as easy as that. Again, I didn't say it wasn't correctable, just that it's hard. Correcting footwork will help accuracy but it doesn't suddenly turn an extremely inaccurate QB into an accurate one. Release point, shoulder mechanics, elbow position, along with thousands and thousands of reps will help accuracy a lot too but even then it's not an easy fix at all, sometimes QBs just stay inaccurate. So while footwork is one of the easier fixes, that doesn't mean fixing accuracy is.
Yeah agee, he's nowhere near ready to start. He's much more risky because of how much you need to fix with him.
