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Schefter: Moncreif to Jags (merged)


(03-27-2018, 09:28 AM)NJ JagsFan Wrote:
(03-26-2018, 06:01 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: It's not about beating them out. It's about having a different skill-set than them - one that the receiver corps was missing last year w/o Robinson. 

Sure, they are rolling the dice on his production vs his potential, but you have to trust your player evaluation sometimes over statistics. The Jags are betting on their evaluation with this deal as well as the Hayden deal. I hope they don't lose those bets.

It kinda is though... you're paying this guy 10m for a year. That isn't the kind of money you throw out just because of his size and speed its because you're expecting him to be better then one the other 3 (by a significant amount).

Not including we pretty much cut Hurns for it who was going to get paid 7m this year and has had better production then Moncrief.

And on top of all that there is no way you could tell me that we had to pay this guy 10m....

I couldn't disagree more with the first two sentences here. 

There simply was not a receiver on the roster (before Moncreif signed)  that demonstrates ability to high-point 50/50 balls, play the sideline back shoulder pass well, and provide a distinct mismatch in the redzone to the degree Moncreif does those things.  

They paid for his skill set at the X position.  It's much more specific than you want it to be. Westbrook and Cole have very different skill sets than Moncreif (especially Westbrook) - and Lee is the only other guy besides Moncreif that has demonstrated an ability to beat press coverage at the line without frequently having his route timing ruined by the defender.  Cole and Westbrook don't have that.  Cole might get there eventually, but he's not there yet. 
You can't just ignore this stuff. Coaches and GMs build receiving corps based upon diversity of skill-set commonly. I'm not just making this stuff up.  Did you really want to start the season with only one receiver that has shown he's consistently tough enough to beat the jam at the line?  That would be unwise. 



Hurns was offered a new deal commensurate with his level of production after just having pocketed an easy 16 million.  He declined. That's not on the Jags.  That was the departed player's decision.



I agree they overpaid Moncreif and I also believe they overpaid Hayden.  It happens pretty often in free agency, but still, those contracts should be ~15% less in my opinion.
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Messages In This Thread
Schefter: Moncreif to Jags (merged) - by pirkster - 03-13-2018, 04:53 PM
RE: Jags signing Moncrief - by NYC4jags - 03-13-2018, 04:56 PM
etdavis2006 - by Etdavis2006 - 03-13-2018, 06:35 PM
etdavis2006 - by Etdavis2006 - 03-13-2018, 06:00 PM
RE: etdavis2006 - by NYC4jags - 03-13-2018, 06:06 PM
etdavis2006 - by Etdavis2006 - 03-13-2018, 06:09 PM
RE: etdavis2006 - by NYC4jags - 03-13-2018, 06:12 PM
RE: etdavis2006 - by rpr52121 - 03-13-2018, 06:50 PM
RE: etdavis2006 - by jaguarmvp - 03-13-2018, 06:39 PM
etdavis2006 - by Etdavis2006 - 03-13-2018, 06:56 PM
Jagsfanclubofmd - by JagsFanClubOfMD - 03-14-2018, 12:07 AM
RE: Jagsfanclubofmd - by JagsorDie - 03-14-2018, 12:11 AM
Jagsfanclubofmd - by JagsFanClubOfMD - 03-14-2018, 12:22 AM
RE: Schefter: Moncreif to Jags (merged) - by PF* - 03-14-2018, 07:57 AM
RE: Schefter: Moncreif to Jags (merged) - by JNev - 03-14-2018, 11:37 AM
Amat3uR - by Amat3uR - 03-14-2018, 07:26 PM
RE: Amat3uR - by jagforlife85 - 03-14-2018, 07:37 PM
RE: Schefter: Moncreif to Jags (merged) - by JNev - 03-15-2018, 01:31 PM
CAPTAIN - by CAPTAIN - 03-19-2018, 11:53 AM
RE: CAPTAIN - by JackCity - 03-19-2018, 12:12 PM
RE: Schefter: Moncreif to Jags (merged) - by JNev - 03-19-2018, 04:03 PM
RE: Schefter: Moncreif to Jags (merged) - by JNev - 03-20-2018, 02:20 PM
RE: Schefter: Moncreif to Jags (merged) - by NYC4jags - 03-27-2018, 10:44 AM
Jags signing Moncrief - by imtheblkranger - 03-13-2018, 04:54 PM



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