(08-20-2017, 05:00 PM)WYBaugh Wrote: This from another forum and not my post.  Sobering though:

Quote:Dave Caldwell needs to be fired asap. They brought him in and he hired Gus Bradley, tore the team down and said they were going to rebuild it the right way through the draft. 

2013
Luke Joekle - gone
Johnathan Cyprian - gone
Dwayne Gratz - gone
Ace Sanders - gone
Denard Robinson - gone
Josh Evans - gone
Jeremy Harris - gone
Demetrius McCray - one

2014
Blake Bortles - soon to be bust
Marquis Lee - injured more than he plays
Allen Robinson - good receiver (not great) 
Brandon Lindor - injured more than he plays 
Aaron Colvin - injured more than he plays 
Telvin Smith - Good player 
Chris Smith - gone
Luke Bawanko - just a guy
Storm Johnson - gone

2015
Dante Fowler - so far a bust
TJ Yeldon - 4th string back
AJ Cann - just a guy
James Sample - gone
Rashaad Green - soon to be cut
Michael Bennett - just a guy
Neal Sterling - never heard of him
Ben Koyack - never heard of him

2016
Jalen Ramsey - good player
Myles Jack - we'll see 
Yannick Ngakoue - good player
Sheldon Day - just a guy
Tyrone Holmes - gone
Brandon Allen - 3rd string QB
Johnathan Woodard - never heard of him

2017
Leonard Fournette - should be good if healthy
Cam Robinson - starter by default. We'll see. 
Dwayne Smoot - ? 
Dede Westbrook - will take Rashad Greens 4th string WR spot
Blair Brown - ? Never heard of him
Jalen Myrick - ? Never heard of him 
Marquez Williams - ? Never heard of him 

So in 5 drafts he got about 5 good players that start. That's building through the draft.

Can we please revisit this particular post?

For brevity's sake, I'll concede 2013 as a lost year.

2014.

Blake Bortles - soon to be bust Quarterbacked team to AFC Championship game.  Won respect from teammates.  Earned second contract
Marquis Lee - injured more than he plays Earned second contract
Allen Robinson - good receiver (not great) -signed lucrative free agent deal with Chicago.  many Jaguars fans sad to see him go
Brandon Linder - injured more than he plays -A stud C on his second contract.
Aaron Colvin - injured more than he plays   Missed part of his rookie year due to the ACL torn at senior bowl.  Wound up nickel CB on top 5 defense 2 years in a row.  Signed lucrative FA deal with Houston.
Telvin Smith - Good player -  Pro Bowl player and leader on defense
Chris Smith - gone;  traded for by the Bengals.  Eventually signed FA deal with Cleveland.
Luke Bowanko - just a guy   Traded for by Ravens
Storm Johnson - gone-7th round pick.  What do you expect?!?


2015
Dante Fowler - so far a bust Counting playoffs, had double digit sacks and a TD (should have been 2) as a part time player
TJ Yeldon - 4th string back  Second string back who put in good carries when Fournette was out.
AJ Cann - just a guy


2016
Jalen Ramsey - good player  First team All Pro and Pro Bowler, widely acknowledged as the top CB in football
Myles Jack - we'll see Played at Pro Bowl level by end of last year.  Made two of the biggest plays in the playoffs, one of which would have catapulted team to the Super Bowl if called correctly by officials.
Yannick Ngakoue - good player  Pro Bowl DE who notched double digit sacks and forced several fumbles.

2017
Leonard Fournette - should be good if healthy-Rushed for 1000 yards playing in only 13 games behind substandard guards with 8 & 9 men in the box
Cam Robinson - starter by default. We'll see. Played best LT for the team since Boselli on an OL that gave up one of the lowest sack totals in team history.
Dwayne Smoot - ? A decent rotational DE who hustles
Dede Westbrook - will take Rashad Greens 4th string WR spot Played very well in half a season's worth of work.  May be starter in 2018
Blair Brown - ? Never heard of him  May be starter in 2018

That's one truly great player-Ramsey
Several really good players-T. Smith, Linder, Ngakoue, Jack, Fournette, C. Robinson, A. Robinson, Fowler
Several other good players-Lee, Westbrook, Colvin

All played in the AFC Championship game within 5 years.

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