(03-28-2018, 11:47 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(03-28-2018, 11:32 AM)Caldrac Wrote: That's what I am saying. Marrone essentially bailed him out. If Marrone wasn't here or had he jumped ship after being the interim coach in 2016. Had he just flat out failed as a coach this year it may have ended up costing Caldwell his job. That's just a simple observation. And even with the extension I don't think he's safe. If this team falls apart in 2018 and they completely fail to build off from their success in 2017 he's more than likely out. 

Prior to last year Caldwell's decision making was questionable. He waited too long with the firing of Bradley and he vehemently defended his stance on Bortles. Like I said, Bradley was a [BLEEP] box head coach. That's a given. But part of Caldwell's job is to identify and see that and he should have promptly handled that a lot sooner than he did.

That's not an observation. It's an opinion. You are basically saying that no other coach the Jags were considering outside of Marrone could have taken this talented roster to the post-season. Which is quite a stretch in reasoning. 

Marrone didn't bail anyone out.  He jumped at the chance to be one of 32 head coaches in the NFL -  with a team and organization he was familiar with to boot. It so happens that Caldwell and Kahn (and to a lesser degree Coughlin) were wise to appoint him.  I fail to see any luck in the equation. 

It's been pretty well documented that the Bradley hire and retention were joint decisions in which the owner and his son had stake in. Caldwell is not free from blame, but we don't know the dynamics of those decisions and how much sway Caldwell ultimately held.

True, true. We'll see. Hopefully 2017 wasn't a flash in the pan. I don't believe it was. I think it's reasonable to expect at least 9 wins or more in 2018. Ultimately the team needed a culture change after the babying they received under Bradley and it worked out in the long run.

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(03-28-2018, 11:53 AM)Bullseye Wrote:

(03-28-2018, 11:32 AM)Caldrac Wrote: That's what I am saying. Marrone essentially bailed him out. If Marrone wasn't here or had he jumped ship after being the interim coach in 2016. Had he just flat out failed as a coach this year it may have ended up costing Caldwell his job. That's just a simple observation. And even with the extension I don't think he's safe. If this team falls apart in 2018 and they completely fail to build off from their success in 2017 he's more than likely out. 

Prior to last year Caldwell's decision making was questionable. He waited too long with the firing of Bradley and he vehemently defended his stance on Bortles. Like I said, Bradley was a [BLEEP] box head coach. That's a given. But part of Caldwell's job is to identify and see that and he should have promptly handled that a lot sooner than he did.

Keep in mind that many on this board and in the fan base in general wanted Marrone canned as well and wanted a complete start.  It was understandable given the team's record during that time (and I acknowledged as much when I made my advocacy for Marrone).  But if Caldwell is going to get the blame for the Bradley hiring (as he should), he has to get the credit for the Marrone hiring.  But for the purposes of this discussion, I cede the point Caldwell's coaching hiring has been questionable.  At best, he's batting .500 in that area.

But his drafting has been top notch.  His only real failing is the failure to acquire a top flight franchise signal caller.  But once he got a running game and defense to support him, keep him in games, and not have all of the pressure on him, Bortles played well.  We have one of the most talented teams in the league.

Agreed. He's not completely at fault. And he's had some good decisions and bad decisions during his tenure here. Hopefully we can keep building on that.

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