(03-29-2018, 05:28 PM)pirkster Wrote:

(03-29-2018, 04:35 PM)JackCity Wrote: Lamar (like Watson) is a good litmus test of who you should value as draft analysts.

To judge that, we'd have to be able to determine how each players' careers unfold first.

So many start quick and burn fast.  That's why I don't value analysts by whether or not they agree with me, but by whether or not they use good judgement.  Those that work out in spite of convention are the exception and should be appropriately acknowledged as such.

One example from this year's draft would be low completion percentage.  People have differing views (and Kiper differing depending on the player) of whether or not it matters.  Should a low completion percentage QB become a success... that would be exceptional and against convention.  Taking one and expecting it to improve in the NFL would be ambitious and a risk.  Teams know they'd be taking that risk, and analysts sticking their necks out in support of those QBs are, too.  You just have to be confident there's a good chance the QB you're after could be the exception.

It's not hard to see who does their homework on prospects and who is just a media talking head. What they think of a prospect Vs what I think doesn't matter. As long as they can break down their game and stick to what the facts are then I have time for them as a draft analyst. 
That's why it's easy to see who knows what they are doing and not when divisive prospects like Lamar, Allen or Watson come up. Good analysts stick to the facts , bad ones feed into narratives for clicks.

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(03-29-2018, 06:11 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: The Sporting News just leaked some Wonderlic scores and this might explain a lot. Jackson reportedly only scored a 13. That's terrible for a QB. Here are how some other QB's scored.

Josh Allen, 37

Josh Rosen, 29

Sam Darnold, 28

Baker Mayfield, 25

Lamar Jackson, 13


Either Rudolph didn't take one or he's being left out of the "top 5 " QB prospects list. I wanna know what he scored.

Has no bearing on NFL success. 

Plus all the teams do new specialised QB tests these days. Unfortunately they keep the results to themselves.

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