(03-30-2018, 03:28 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(03-30-2018, 11:38 AM)Achilles Wrote: He's definitely a project but his upside is through the roof, higher than any other QB prospect.

It'll take a year or two before he's ready but a team like Jacksonville is primed for it.

He could go anywhere from early/mid 1 to probably mid round 2, so if he did get selected at 29, depending on how the jags have him rated, would likely be very good value.

What makes you think "his upside is through the roof, higher than any other QB prospect?"   What is the evidence of that?

I haven't seen evidence that any of the QBs at the top of this draft are anything special.

Rosen and Darnold could easily be Trubisky and Tannehill.

A lot of people, including Vick himself, see explosiveness of Michael Vick in his game.  That would be higher than Trubisky and Tannehill level production.

It's all projection.  No one knows how any of these QBs will turn out.  Having/not having the highest ceiling are equal arguments.  Why you believe so is what separates the arguments.  I can completely understand why some would feel he has higher upside.

I think Mayfield has higher upside than Rosen and Darnold as well, though his height and maturity are in question.  All the top QBs have warts in this draft.

Allen's ceiling is extremely difficult to gauge.  Is he Locker?  Is he Cutler?  Could he become a thrower like Kelly or Elway?  Biggest risk/reward, as his ceiling could also be his current floor.  His arm alone is what's likely to cause someone to take him early in spite of his completion percentage.


Rudolph I see as Garappolo potential ceilling and probably needs to have time to groom as he did.  He may be one of the safer picks, particularly for teams not looking for an immediate starter.

Every year we overhype and oversell the QBs (all of them - top to bottom,) particularly if our team needs one.  This year is no different.

In our case, I've seen a lot of folks falling too much in love with the lower QBs in this draft, who I don't think will have an easy road to simply become a backup in the league.  I could be completely wrong, but experience and history has taught me not to prop up those kinds of guys and be especially wary of selling yourself a bad prospect just because you feel you need one or desire the club to take one.  We can't manufacture candidates we want if they aren't really there.

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