(04-10-2018, 06:20 PM)JackCity Wrote:

(04-10-2018, 06:07 PM)pirkster Wrote: You still take him in the second.  If you have to move up ahead of you think who will take him in the second, you still take him there instead of the first.

There's always another player to take.  However, you can never recoup value after you've given it away.

Look at what happened with Arob.

In your scenario, we would have taken Robinson and left Lee on the table - instead of taking Lee where he was, then trading back up to also get Robinson.

Value is the driver.  Not emotion/desire for a player and/or position.  You can't afford to "fall in love" with a guy, then reach just because you're forcing a fit where the numbers don't match.  Numbers, not crushes on players.  We're human, so easier said than done for fans for sure.  But that's not how rational execs would do things.

No that thought process and scenario we are talking about is strictly limited to QBs. 

Let's say we let Bortles go this year and needed a QB bad. We pick at #29, but have a guy pegged as a franchise guy that is more likely to be taken in the 2nd than the first. You take that guy at #29 rather than risk losing him.  

The value of a franchise QB is so large that you have to get your guy above all else. The usual rules don't apply.

Well, it's your fantasy situation.  You're entitled to all the mental gymnastics you please, I suppose.

Some get value, some don't.

If your situation existed, the reality would likely be the value meets the pick and it's not a reach in the eyes of the club.  They still aren't taking a a second rounder with the first pick unless they have him at the top of their board.

Realistic situation - this year.  Say they have a high third round grade (Let's say pick three of round three) on a QB.  Doesn't matter who he is, that's their grade.  Taking him with our second rounder isn't reaching.  It's where the value is.

Same situation, but they have him graded mid to late third round.  You either wait for him and take him third round - or you jump ahead of who you think is going to take him (because remember, they do their homework on that and know where they would need to be to take that target) you pick your board pick with your second rounder.  Then, you move up and select that QB in the third where you've targeted to take him ahead of the competition.

This isn't hard.  No sane exec (who is successful and will keep his job) will skip a round grade for a player that's been properly slotted/graded.  Gene Smith might (Alualu) but not someone who knows what they're doing.

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