(04-12-2018, 09:51 AM)AlsJagsFan Wrote: (04-12-2018, 08:40 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: So an old and not producing Wayne. 2 aging pass rushers. Then you go on to name studs like Tommy Harris, Austin Collie, Fleener and Redding? Yikes dude. Reaching real hard there. Also, let's not forget that only 2 of those players are still Colts. Hilton and Constanzo. So all those "studs" were so great that the team let them walk?
The Colts roster was and still is a bottom 5 roster. I mean... I think they may have the worst roster in the league right now.
I am pretty sure Wayne was a 1000+ yds receiver Luck's first year. And how can you say Luck's line was worse when Bortles was sacked more. I did some research and stat comparisons on the two and while luck has slightly better stats it doesn't prove he's head over heels better than Bortles despite what fans think. The numbers don't lie. I would take Bortles and our defense over luck and their defense both combinations produced and AFC Championship game appearance. Also if I remember correctly Luck enjoys fumbling the ball....a lot. But I could be wrong on that.
Wayne was there for his rookie year but was gone after that. Luck's line has cost him his throwing shoulder and his spleen. Bortles may have been sacked more but Luck's a better pure passer and he's probably a lot more quick release wise so just because he wasn't sacked as much doesn't mean he wasn't dropping back and getting absolutely hammered into the ground soon after a pass attempt or completion.
You can talk stats and compare stats but at the end of the day all that matters is the win and loss column and Luck has Bortles beat my many, many miles in that regard. Luck truly inherited a [BLEEP] football team with an okay coaching staff and still managed to go 33 - 15 during his first three years with at least a play-off win in each season. Regardless, they've both had some ups and downs in the NFL due to a lot of things from a gutted roster to a poor coaching staff, etc.
But if you really want to play the what if game. A healthy Luck, with this ground game and our defense would probably nearly guarantee another trip to the Championship game in 2018. And I like Bortles just as much as any other die hard fan out there. I was ready to write him off after 2016 but he redeemed himself in 2017. And I honestly feel he'll keep building on that in 2018. Hopefully he's not another Alex Smith type where he gets us there but falls short consistently. Hopefully he can drive it all the way home for us. We'll see.
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