(04-28-2018, 12:26 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(04-28-2018, 11:34 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: Value is what the pick has, the player has ability. If you're taking a player with less ability because you want to fill a roster hole then you're getting less value, not more. It's why organizations like the Steelers have success over decades instead of over a few seasons. Even when they didn't have a QB they were good, and teams like the Jaguars have a decade of horrific losing, it's because the Jaguars kept thinking they just need to use their draft picks to fill roster spots. That's what brought on guys like Matt Jones and Reggie Williams. Anyone citing Marcedes as successfully matching need to value needs their head checked. When a team's own second round pick is a better player than their first round pick that's a bad first round pick. After the moronic Leftwich pick the Jaguars spent three consecutive years trying to prove that mistake correct by reaching for more questionable talent instead of taking Rodgers or Roethlisburger.

If need didn’t factor into 90% of the draft picks in the early rounds you’d have 20 teams with rosters loaded with OTs, CBS, and pass rushers they can’t get on the field. 

Teams consider need with nearly every pick to some degree (the genre varies widely) and it results in some great picks. Not just bad ones.

Of course most teams do it wrong, which is really what you're saying. Also the idea that only offensive tackles can be the best player is ridiculous.

Was Ramsey the best player when he was taken? Clearly he was. Would you pass up another player like Ramsey to take a guy like Reggie Williams because you want a #1 WR and you already have a future Hall of Fame defensive back in Ramsey?

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