(05-03-2018, 11:55 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(05-03-2018, 11:27 AM)Hard_Eight Wrote: What he's invested here would easily be made up by moving to London provided they can sell the tickets at their current going rate.

That's one giant "if."  That also would require about 6 other giant "ifs" falling the right way with the league.

Personally, I seriously don't think a permanent team will draw very well there long term. I think the best the NFL can do is expand the number of games played in London by two or three -  and allow the smaller market teams to be the "home team" as often as possible to aid those franchise's and the league's bottom line financially. 

It boggles my mind how so many people are just mentally leapfrogging all of the logistical hurdles associated with a team (or teams)  based so incredibly far away from its competition. 
The rumors after the 2018 owners meeting suggest that the owners are collectively far apart about a permanent team there, and I do not anticipate that changing any time soon. 

The other thing the fear brigade continues to blindly assume is that Khan actually wants to move the damn team. Something that the man seems literally sick and tired of denying because he has to do it so often.

The main problem the NFL have is that we are culturally different here. In sports when a team moves US fans seem much more willing to suddenly support the arriving team and then if the city losing the team later gets another different team the locals are happy to then start supporting that team disregarding the previous loyalties.

We're not like that, we pick a team (usually handed down from parent to child) and we stick with them. Granted in Soccer we don't have teams relocate, but it's the same with the NFL and why you see all mix of jerseys at the London games. The preferred choice of fans here is to stage more game to allow them chance to see their team. It would take a whole generation for a new team to have a fan base big enough to fill a stadium, so expansion is out the window.

The advantage the NFL would have in moving us is that because of how long we have been playing here now we do have a large fan base in the UK (people travel from all over our country to these games it's not just fans from the City of London - I mean from Scotland and sh!t) and a lot of fans of other teams view the Jaguars as their team to support as the home team when not playing against the team they actually support.

It would be much easier if all the logistical challenges can be overcome to move the Jaguars as they have the most chance of success in London in terms of selling tickets, merch and establishing a proper fan base.

That said, there's a ten year deal on WHL Stadium, if I were a fan of any other team and that team makes a multi year commitment to games here I would be very worried about that team being the mover. Jaguars have basically shown the model of how to build to the point you could move and they would only need to replicate that model.

(05-04-2018, 09:46 AM)AlsJagsFan Wrote: Maybe the NFL is thinking much bigger. Maybe they are trying to do more international games with the hope to not expand the NFL but perhaps creating a whole new league. Maybe putting a team in London but having that team be part of some other league that will play games against other European countries. Maybe having some big game against the American NFL vs the new league. I think there is already football internationally but is it run under 1 commissioner?

We tried that, Google "NFL Europe."

Nobody went to watch those teams because it was an inferior product and the uptake of the Int Series is because it's the real deal.

As for the stadium purchase, the offer hasn't been accepted yet and even if it is I don't think it's about moving us.

Forgetting the conference facilities, Tottenham temporarily playing there this season only and the FA's (Soccer's governing body here) HQ the actual stadium is used in a normal year about 20 times a year. Those tend to be in bursts, so this month for example it'll be used 5 times for playoff finals and a Cup Final. There are big periods of the year that it isn't used and that's an opportunity to hold events like Boxing or Concerts. It can make a lot more money than it does, so that's what I think is Shad Kahn's angle.

Holding a SB here wouldn't have much of the logistical challenges holding the regular season games here would as there's a 2 week lead up instead of just one week. If Shad buys the stadium I'll be amazed if the NFL don't give us a SB.

As for Sadiq he's doing what a good mayor should do, he's trying to attract business to London that could create jobs for Londoners.

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