Create Account



The Jungle is self-supported by showing advertisements via Google Adsense.
Please consider disabling your advertisement-blocking plugin on the Jungle to help support the site and let us grow!
We also show significantly less advertisements to registered users, so create your account to benefit from this!
Questions or concerns about this ad? Take a screenshot and comment in the thread. We do value your feedback.
Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts

#33

(05-25-2018, 08:08 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(05-25-2018, 07:58 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Your issue is that you're dealing in absolutes. Government does restrain freedom, but to varying degrees. Having government doesn't mean no freedom, it means limits on freedom; no matter how much or little, any government means some level of freedom is necessarily restrained. The balance is how much government to accept. Your No taxes = No government = No freedom is false, government restrains freedom and sometimes protects it, but freedom does not require government to exist. It might be at risk, but it can certainly exist absent any form of government.

I don't think I'm really dealing in absolutes anymore than you are.
The problem here is you have a faulty definition of freedom.
There is no freedom to murder.
There is no freedom to rape.
There is no freedom to steal.
The definition of freedom is that you are free to do things that are either positive to others or have no effect on others. You are free to offer goods and services at prices that you think are fair. You are free to employ people at will for wages.  Effective Government is absolutely necessary to prevent people from doing things that harm others or abuse their positive freedoms to the point that they do harm others.

We'll, ok. I guess if you redefine basic terms to support your ideas then I can't really argue with your point.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Reply


Messages In This Thread
Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by The Drifter - 05-22-2018, 03:37 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-23-2018, 08:49 AM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-23-2018, 12:05 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-24-2018, 11:31 AM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-24-2018, 06:53 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-25-2018, 12:45 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-25-2018, 05:56 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-25-2018, 08:08 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by flsprtsgod - 05-25-2018, 08:48 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-25-2018, 05:25 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-23-2018, 09:56 AM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-26-2018, 09:35 AM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-26-2018, 02:02 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-26-2018, 04:11 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-26-2018, 08:37 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by copycat - 05-26-2018, 09:15 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-26-2018, 09:45 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-26-2018, 10:31 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by copycat - 05-26-2018, 08:00 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-27-2018, 07:16 AM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-27-2018, 09:50 AM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-27-2018, 11:31 AM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-27-2018, 01:41 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by jj82284 - 05-27-2018, 01:44 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-27-2018, 03:46 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by jj82284 - 05-27-2018, 04:52 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-27-2018, 06:09 PM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by jj82284 - 05-28-2018, 08:14 AM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by mikesez - 05-28-2018, 10:23 AM
RE: Bill Nye Wants to Tax Cow Farts - by jj82284 - 05-28-2018, 01:38 PM



Users browsing this thread:

The Jungle is self-supported by showing advertisements via Google Adsense.
Please consider disabling your advertisement-blocking plugin on the Jungle to help support the site and let us grow!
We also show less advertisements to registered users, so create your account to benefit from this!
Questions or concerns about this ad? Take a screenshot and comment in the thread. We do value your feedback.


ABOUT US
The Jungle Forums is the Jaguars' biggest fan message board. Talking about the Jags since 2006, the Jungle was the team-endorsed home of all things Jaguars.

Since 2017, the Jungle is now independent of the team but still run by the same crew. We are here to support and discuss all things Jaguars and all things Duval!