(07-24-2018, 12:50 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:

(07-23-2018, 02:59 PM)mikesez Wrote: Hint: the success sought by Russian oligarchs has very little to do with military victories or strong alliances, and everything to do with compiling cash and ferreting it out to as many foreign bank accounts and real estate holdings as possible.  Iran's leaders are in on this.

Oligarch is just another word used to villainize rich people in Russia. Honestly, what's the difference in their rich people and our's?

Hint: the collusion is allegedly between Trump and their government. Are you saying he isn't colluding with the government but instead other rich people?

(07-23-2018, 04:21 PM)Adam2012 Wrote: Do you really thing another silly tweet by Donald is frightening to Iran?

The tweets are only taken seriously by "the base", not by foreign governments.

Hey, it's working!

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What's truly breathtaking is the lengths to which Trumpettes will excuse any and all foolishness done by Donald.

And a supporter of Donald speaking of a lack of self-awareness. Now that's irony!

If his words don't mean anything, then why do you complain when he doesn't throw Russia under the bus?

If his words don't mean anything, then why do you complain about them?

Oligarch is not just another name to villainize (sic) Russian rich people. It specifically refers to the group of crooks and thieves, including Putin, who stole the assets of the former Soviet Union from the Russian government and people and made themselves incredibly rich and who now rule Russia. So, unless you want to lump people like Donald Trump into a group of American "oligarchs", yes there is a difference in their rich people and ours.

Russian history always helps. A good place to start is Armageddon Averted, by Stephen Kotkin. Of course there are many others as well.

I said Trump's tweets don't mean anything - not his words. He's the President. His words, especially when he's agreeing to the views of a Russian dictator, mean a lot. His tweets tend to be blather meant for his base - so they stop talking about Putin, or payoffs to a Playboy model, or Michael Cohen, or Paul Manafort's pending trial, or Rocket Man, or trade wars, or whatever stupidity has occurred this week.

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