(07-26-2018, 11:56 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(07-26-2018, 11:31 AM)copycat Wrote: Stop projecting your views on everyone else.  

In a previous post you stated, and I paraphrase:  people are not right or left on all issues the go back and forth depending on the issue.

Now you have spent two days slapping labels on anything and everyone.  Maybe you should do some self reflection and soul searching.

I'm just trying to demonstrate that promoting white supremacy in the 1960s and 1970s would have been a right wing view.  I'm categorizing a specific viewpoint on a single issue at a single time. 
People devoted to that cause could have had other views on other issues - like how Squeaky Fromme apparently also wanted to "save the trees".  That part is pretty left-wing.  Real people have multiple views on multiple issues and live through multiple times.
I self-reflect and search my soul all the time.  I'm sure you do too.  Most of us do.
The problem is that I'm the only one here trying to answer one question at a time.  Whether intentional or not, most of you are equivocating my words, and then arguing against points that I didn't actually make.  I'm being specific for a reason.  Make sure you understand before you say I'm wrong.

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(07-26-2018, 11:49 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: The word Politifact was a link, and you are dead wrong about the Senate.

I don't remember a 2008 stimulus, unless you are counting the bail out as a stimulus. The Dems controlled both houses in 2008, so if there was a stimulus it was a Dem bill signed by Bush, who was not a conservative.

The tax cuts under Obama were cuts to the employee portion of FICA. I had no disagreement with that part of it, but it was not a stimulus. In 2009 there were a lot of people hurting, and many of the temporary laws passed then were necessary, although they were in the realm of welfare, not stimulus.

I agree that spending was too high under Bush. Bush wasn't given a pass by the right for the overspending. Most conservatives opposed the spending increases, and I sent an E-mail to Speaker Hastert and Senate Majority leader Frist (and to my own congressman and senators) expressing my anger at the overspending (Senator Frist actually personally responded, my congressman and senators didn't even reply with a form letter). Admittedly, some of the spending was needed in response to the 9/11 attack, but much was wasted rebuilding Iraq. There were also big increases in domestic spending.

If you're going to say that Bush 43 wasn't a conservative, you are committing the No True Scotsman fallacy.  Some of the things he did might not fall under a specific definition of "conservative" but his identity in general is part of any definition of American Conservative.  You can disown some of what he did, but to disown most of it, you'd have to re-define "conservatism" as this fringe political movement that wasn't actually able to get people elected from 2000 to 2008.
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