(07-26-2018, 07:17 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:

(07-26-2018, 11:56 AM)mikesez Wrote: I'm just trying to demonstrate that promoting white supremacy in the 1960s and 1970s would have been a right wing view.  I'm categorizing a specific viewpoint on a single issue at a single time. 
People devoted to that cause could have had other views on other issues - like how Squeaky Fromme apparently also wanted to "save the trees".  That part is pretty left-wing.  Real people have multiple views on multiple issues and live through multiple times.
I self-reflect and search my soul all the time.  I'm sure you do too.  Most of us do.
The problem is that I'm the only one here trying to answer one question at a time.  Whether intentional or not, most of you are equivocating my words, and then arguing against points that I didn't actually make.  I'm being specific for a reason.  Make sure you understand before you say I'm wrong.

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If you're going to say that Bush 43 wasn't a conservative, you are committing the No True Scotsman fallacy.  Some of the things he did might not fall under a specific definition of "conservative" but his identity in general is part of any definition of American Conservative.  You can disown some of what he did, but to disown most of it, you'd have to re-define "conservatism" as this fringe political movement that wasn't actually able to get people elected from 2000 to 2008.
You can do better.

Ah, the [BLEEP] No True Scotsman fallacy argument. You had to dig deep on Daily Kos for that one.

Bush 43 was a moderate who leaned conservative. Other than the tax cuts, he didn't do anything particularly conservative. He boosted the bureaucracy, increased spending, greatly expanded the Dept. of Education, and implemented a prescription drug add on to Medicare. None of those are remotely conservative. You can't claim "right wing" in his case, unless your bird of choice is an ostrich.

In any case, you changed the subject from how conservatives criticized Bush to Bush's conservatism. There was much criticism of Bush's policies that you mentioned earlier from the "right wing."

And to push even further back to the original point, all of the political hate crimes are from the Left. We're talking about the Obama and Trump era, and you bring up some murderess from the 1970s. STRAWMAN!