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So much HATE under Trump

(This post was last modified: 07-27-2018, 09:14 AM by mikesez.)

(07-27-2018, 08:42 AM)MalabarJag Wrote:
(07-27-2018, 08:22 AM)mikesez Wrote: James Alex Fields Jr. would be interested to find out that you think he's "from the Left".  Jeremy Joseph Christian might be as well.

1. You might want to supply some context rather than just naming names.

2. Neither of those were politically motivated, which is the topic of this discussion. The first was not even a hate crime, it was an unplanned extreme response to a guy's car being blocked and attacked, he didn't set out that day to drive over people. I'm not sure what the motive was in the second case; it seems to be racial but not political.

So white supremacy isn't a political opinion?

(07-27-2018, 08:58 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(07-27-2018, 08:31 AM)mikesez Wrote: I think we have a duty to teach all people that there used to be slavery and Jim Crow.  
We have a duty to teach that segregation in education is still going on at the primary level, and that as late as the 1960s states ran universities that were for whites only.
We have a duty to teach that even in areas in the North, continuing into the 1970s, mob violence would be threatened against a black person who tried to move into a white neighborhood. 
We have a duty to teach that, from 1934 to 1968, black people could not get mortgages on the same terms as white people.

To stop teaching these things is supressing the truth.  To stop teaching these things deprives students of all colors the ability to properly make sense of what they see.

It's up to the students to decide that they're not going to adopt a victim mentality.  We can certainly encourage them to not see themselves as victims, but, we can't re-write history either.  If they want to look at the clear facts and decide that they need to spend their lives feeling like a victim, that's a freedom that they have as Americans.

We do teach it, hell, some people make a great living off of never, ever, ever shutting up about it. What we really need is to teach history accurately so that today's Victim Class will come to understand that they aren't victims of anything except the willful victims of their own actions and the race hucksters..

I don't understand what you mean.  Are you implying that anything on my list was inaccurate?
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
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So much HATE under Trump - by Jags02 - 07-21-2018, 03:27 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by B2hibry - 07-21-2018, 04:01 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by Jags02 - 07-21-2018, 04:20 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-22-2018, 08:20 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by Adam2012 - 07-22-2018, 08:46 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-22-2018, 08:49 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by TJBender - 07-22-2018, 11:46 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-21-2018, 05:17 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-21-2018, 06:19 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-21-2018, 07:09 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by B2hibry - 07-21-2018, 07:19 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by MalabarJag - 07-21-2018, 09:03 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by StroudCrowd1 - 07-21-2018, 09:09 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-21-2018, 09:11 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by StroudCrowd1 - 07-21-2018, 09:35 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by Jags02 - 07-22-2018, 01:41 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by FBT - 07-22-2018, 02:44 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-22-2018, 03:16 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 07-22-2018, 03:37 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-22-2018, 04:59 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-22-2018, 05:47 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-22-2018, 07:15 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-22-2018, 07:39 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-22-2018, 10:31 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-23-2018, 07:03 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by Jags02 - 07-23-2018, 02:44 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-23-2018, 02:47 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-23-2018, 03:54 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-23-2018, 08:11 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 07-23-2018, 08:53 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by copycat - 07-23-2018, 07:24 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-23-2018, 08:52 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-23-2018, 11:01 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by copycat - 07-23-2018, 11:49 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-23-2018, 12:39 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by copycat - 07-23-2018, 12:54 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-23-2018, 01:01 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by pirkster - 07-23-2018, 01:11 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by lastonealive - 07-21-2018, 07:39 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by StroudCrowd1 - 07-21-2018, 07:55 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by lastonealive - 07-21-2018, 08:20 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by StroudCrowd1 - 07-21-2018, 08:38 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-21-2018, 08:56 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by lastonealive - 07-21-2018, 11:47 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by B2hibry - 07-21-2018, 09:44 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by StroudCrowd1 - 07-21-2018, 09:48 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by rollerjag - 07-22-2018, 12:29 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 07-22-2018, 12:36 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by The Drifter - 07-22-2018, 12:39 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-22-2018, 01:03 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by The Drifter - 07-22-2018, 01:08 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-22-2018, 01:53 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-22-2018, 02:25 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by Jags02 - 07-22-2018, 07:23 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by FBT - 07-26-2018, 07:41 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 08:17 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by FBT - 07-26-2018, 08:43 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 09:43 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-26-2018, 09:59 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 10:17 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by Kane - 07-26-2018, 10:18 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 10:59 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by MalabarJag - 07-26-2018, 10:42 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by jj82284 - 07-26-2018, 11:39 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-26-2018, 12:02 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by MalabarJag - 07-26-2018, 09:27 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 11:23 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by MalabarJag - 07-26-2018, 11:49 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 12:23 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 07-23-2018, 01:33 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by B2hibry - 07-23-2018, 01:44 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-23-2018, 05:37 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-23-2018, 05:53 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by Kotite - 07-23-2018, 06:06 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-23-2018, 06:40 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-23-2018, 07:38 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-24-2018, 06:03 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-24-2018, 11:23 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by copycat - 07-24-2018, 12:31 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-24-2018, 12:44 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by copycat - 07-24-2018, 04:10 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-24-2018, 04:30 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-24-2018, 04:38 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by copycat - 07-24-2018, 04:42 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-24-2018, 05:20 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by copycat - 07-25-2018, 07:59 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-25-2018, 11:05 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-25-2018, 01:25 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-25-2018, 02:31 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-25-2018, 03:08 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-25-2018, 03:48 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by pirkster - 07-25-2018, 02:05 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by TJBender - 07-23-2018, 11:50 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-24-2018, 11:16 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-24-2018, 12:08 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-24-2018, 12:18 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-24-2018, 12:41 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-24-2018, 12:57 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by Caldrac - 07-24-2018, 12:21 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by Adam2012 - 07-24-2018, 12:37 PM
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RE: So much HATE under Trump - by pirkster - 07-24-2018, 06:17 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by pirkster - 07-25-2018, 04:12 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-25-2018, 08:01 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by FBT - 07-26-2018, 07:52 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 08:23 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 07-25-2018, 05:37 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by jj82284 - 07-25-2018, 09:44 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-25-2018, 10:27 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-26-2018, 12:30 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 07:00 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-26-2018, 08:33 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by JagNGeorgia - 07-26-2018, 01:29 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 07:08 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by jj82284 - 07-26-2018, 03:16 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 06:54 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-26-2018, 08:18 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 11:38 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by Kane - 07-26-2018, 10:16 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 10:50 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by copycat - 07-26-2018, 11:31 AM
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RE: So much HATE under Trump - by MalabarJag - 07-26-2018, 07:17 PM
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RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-27-2018, 08:22 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by MalabarJag - 07-27-2018, 08:42 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-27-2018, 09:13 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by MalabarJag - 07-27-2018, 09:18 AM
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RE: So much HATE under Trump - by Kane - 07-27-2018, 02:43 PM
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RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-27-2018, 03:58 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-27-2018, 05:17 PM
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RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 12:10 PM
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RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 12:37 PM
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RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 01:57 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by B2hibry - 07-26-2018, 12:29 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-26-2018, 12:34 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 07-26-2018, 12:27 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by pirkster - 07-26-2018, 12:30 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 07-26-2018, 02:01 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 02:47 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 07-26-2018, 03:35 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by Byron LeftTown - 07-26-2018, 02:14 PM
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RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-26-2018, 02:43 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by B2hibry - 07-26-2018, 02:43 PM
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RE: So much HATE under Trump - by pirkster - 07-26-2018, 05:04 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-26-2018, 05:50 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 07-26-2018, 05:12 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by pirkster - 07-26-2018, 06:32 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-27-2018, 08:31 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-27-2018, 08:58 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by B2hibry - 07-27-2018, 07:24 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-27-2018, 07:25 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by MalabarJag - 07-27-2018, 08:04 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-27-2018, 09:21 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 07-27-2018, 11:27 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-27-2018, 09:26 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by MalabarJag - 07-27-2018, 10:26 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 07-28-2018, 08:24 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 08-06-2018, 04:51 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by StroudCrowd1 - 08-06-2018, 06:52 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 08-07-2018, 10:28 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 08-07-2018, 10:51 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 08-07-2018, 11:18 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by StroudCrowd1 - 08-07-2018, 11:20 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 08-07-2018, 11:24 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 08-07-2018, 11:30 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 08-07-2018, 11:25 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 08-07-2018, 11:30 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by MalabarJag - 08-07-2018, 12:01 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 08-07-2018, 12:06 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 08-07-2018, 03:39 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by StroudCrowd1 - 08-07-2018, 03:58 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 08-07-2018, 04:14 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by MalabarJag - 08-07-2018, 05:31 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 08-07-2018, 06:31 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by MalabarJag - 08-07-2018, 07:47 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 08-07-2018, 08:15 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by MalabarJag - 08-07-2018, 09:05 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 08-07-2018, 10:35 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 08-07-2018, 10:43 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 08-08-2018, 11:57 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by jj82284 - 08-08-2018, 12:34 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by jj82284 - 08-07-2018, 05:44 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by mikesez - 08-07-2018, 07:51 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by jj82284 - 08-08-2018, 10:44 AM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 08-07-2018, 01:32 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by JagNGeorgia - 08-07-2018, 05:31 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by homebiscuit - 08-08-2018, 12:47 PM
RE: So much HATE under Trump - by flsprtsgod - 08-09-2018, 07:44 AM
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