Quote:well as said, I still think some responsibility for the first year lies on him as well, but for poops and giggles, even using your argument alone, we're still talking a 4-12 record and a draft that has zero real "home runs" at this point and is the jury is clearly still out on. I've said it before and people mist think its a good point because it keeps getting ignored - At this very point in 2010 we were looking at the 2009 draft VERY similarly as a lot of you are looking at the 2013 draft at the current point in time. 4 years later and we are not taking a more conservative judgment??