(08-16-2018, 09:28 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Once again, everybody can have an opinion on the guys who play the game except...wait for it...the guys who actually play the game.

If anyone on a message board said the same things Ramsey said, it would be okay. People might disagree with the take, but nobody would tell the guy he doesn't have the right to voice his opinion.

If a media talking head had identical takes, he is being provocative, going against the grain, etc.

But a guy who actually plays the game? A guy who studies film? Pffft. He needs to just shut up and play. Goodness knows, he can't talk about larger societal issues-or hell, even make a silent symbolic gesture. Now, he can't even comment on his own profession.

For any of you trashing Jalen for having the temerity to voice his opinion, did any of you think he might have reason for his opinion?

In the two times he has gone up against Big Ben, Ramsey is 2-0, and Big Ben has thrown a total of SIX (6) ints, including a 5 INT, 2 pick 6 performance. Ramsey is 2-0 in those games. The 42 point performance is deceiving. Two of those TDs were on desperation 4th down heaves when they were on the verge of being blown out. The last score was with no time remaining on the clock. He had a fumble that was returned for a TD, and another INT that gave the Jaguars the ball inside the Steelers' red zone.

Flacco? He's 1-1 against Flacco.

The last time he went up against the Ravens, he was part of a defense that held the Ravens to 7 points in a 44-7 win. The first time? Flacco threw 2 INTs in a game the Ravens had no business winning If Flacco's performance were beyond reproach, the Ravens would not have bothered to draft Jackson.

How many posters on here expressed similar reservations about Josh Allen? Inaccuracy issues? Failure to beat quality opponents?

I know for a fact there have been plenty on these boards who have argued that Luck isn't that good.

While I disagree with his assessment on Matt Ryan, his analysis on the role Kyle Shanahan played in his fortunes seems pretty good, yet has escaped the notice of most of the media talking heads.

He has also walked the walk since he has been in the league.

The defense has been a top ten unit since he has been in the league.

How many receivers can we honestly say has gotten the better of Ramsey? Brown? Alshon Jeffrey for a half?

The fact is, there is reason for Ramsey to say many of the things he has said, even if we may or may not agree with his conclusions.

Individual accolades? Pro Bowl...All Pro? Check and check.

(08-16-2018, 10:12 PM)Firesky Wrote:

(08-16-2018, 09:28 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Once again, everybody can have an opinion on the guys who play the game except...wait for it...the guys who actually play the game.

If anyone on a message board said the same things Ramsey said, it would be okay. People might disagree with the take, but nobody would tell the guy he doesn't have the right to voice his opinion.

If a media talking head had identical takes, he is being provocative, going against the grain, etc.

But a guy who actually plays the game? A guy who studies film? Pffft. He needs to just shut up and play. Goodness knows, he can't talk about larger societal issues-or hell, even make a silent symbolic gesture. Now, he can't even comment on his own profession.

For any of you trashing Jalen for having the temerity to voice his opinion, did any of you think he might have reason for his opinion?

In the two times he has gone up against Big Ben, Ramsey is 2-0, and Big Ben has thrown a total of SIX (6) ints, including a 5 INT, 2 pick 6 performance. Ramsey is 2-0 in those games. The 42 point performance is deceiving. Two of those TDs were on desperation 4th down heaves when they were on the verge of being blown out. The last score was with no time remaining on the clock. He had a fumble that was returned for a TD, and another INT that gave the Jaguars the ball inside the Steelers' red zone.

Flacco? He's 1-1 against Flacco.

The last time he went up against the Ravens, he was part of a defense that held the Ravens to 7 points in a 44-7 win. The first time? Flacco threw 2 INTs in a game the Ravens had no business winning If Flacco's performance were beyond reproach, the Ravens would not have bothered to draft Jackson.

How many posters on here expressed similar reservations about Josh Allen? Inaccuracy issues? Failure to beat quality opponents?

I know for a fact there have been plenty on these boards who have argued that Luck isn't that good.

While I disagree with his assessment on Matt Ryan, his analysis on the role Kyle Shanahan played in his fortunes seems pretty good, yet has escaped the notice of most of the media talking heads.

He has also walked the walk since he has been in the league.

The defense has been a top ten unit since he has been in the league.

How many receivers can we honestly say has gotten the better of Ramsey? Brown? Alshon Jeffrey for a half?

The fact is, there is reason for Ramsey to say many of the things he has said, even if we may or may not agree with his conclusions.

Individual accolades? Pro Bowl...All Pro? Check and check.

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