(08-21-2018, 09:26 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(08-21-2018, 09:09 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Everyone knows how the game is played. There's just no evidence to suggest collusion, and the more information that comes out about the dossier, the more it becomes an apparent hit-piece.

I don't even believe Mueller thinks there's collusion at this point. I think he's just looking for something to pin on Trump. And if they look long enough at anyone, they'll find something.

Collusion (between his campaign and Russia) is just one possible thing that they might pin on Trump.

There's also the possibility that Trump obstructed the investigation into collusion, and the possibility that Trump obstructed the investigations into Cohen and Manafort.

Then there's a high likelihood that Cohen testimony is correct and that he committed an illegal act at Trump's direction. Think about that for a minute.  You knew you weren't electing a choir boy, but, even after the Access Hollywood tape came out, this man was accused of having an affair with a porn star while his wife was pregnant, and he used campaign funds to attempt to pay hush money to her.  You might say, "well we knew what we were getting.  He doesn't hide his problems." No.  He wasn't being honest with you.  For all the public scandals he already had, the two divorces, the many affairs, Trump was still hiding things from you the voter, and making illegal payments to do it.

Finally there's a possibility that Trump himself has been dishonest with his tax returns and his foreign bank accounts.

Collusion isn't a crime, and there's been no evidence suggesting that it even happened. 

Obstructed? How?

Like jj82284 said, Cohen is on tape making the decision to make those payments and how they're made. Unless there's another (which is possible with him), then I'm not sure where they'd go with it. Again, isn't this the same charge Bernie was only fined for? Maybe I'm wrong but that's what I was told. The other stuff you said is only there to further demonize him. I'm not sure the relevancy to this conversation.

They already have all his tax info, so if that's what they wanted to look at then they would've done it already.

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