(09-10-2018, 01:57 PM)Krayz_Jville_D Wrote:

(09-10-2018, 12:24 PM)Caldrac Wrote: 11 penalties for 119 yards didn't help much either their chief. Especially when your left tackle gets flagged not once, not twice but I believe three times on third and short for false starts which made them all third and long. Moncrief dropped a 1st down yesterday. So did Westbrook. Norwell also negated a perfect TD pass which we ended up settling for three on. 

You can have your little petty agenda about Blake but it's a two way street though. We clearly weren't watching the same game. I am not saying Bortles was perfect. But his teammates were far from perfect as well on both sides of the football.

Play calling needs to get better. We didn't see any of that dual back formation stuff from pre season at all. We didn't see Chark out there at all. They rarely ran the football out of the I-formation with a fullback lead blocking. Instead they keep trying to get cute on 2nd downs out of the spread or shotgun formation and the RB's are getting eaten alive. 

And stop comparing Aaron [BLEEP] Rodgers to any QB in the NFL. He's Aaron [BLEEP] Rodgers. There's maybe three QB's in the NFL that are truly Elite. He's probably the top of that list. Brady has a better team around him than Rodgers. Brees has always been a great passer. After you get past those three you got some guys that can win you some games and damn near cost you some games. Like Ryan in ATL and Roethlisberger in PIT. Can probably add Wilson to that list too out of SEA.

After you get past them. That's about it. It's anyone's guess. Newton was meh yesterday. Prescott sucked. Alex Smith was okay. Mahomes had a big day. Trubisky was okay. Flacco beat up a [BLEEP] team with no QB. Taylor did okay. Jimmy G sucked. Cousins did okay. I mean. You can go back and look.

I agree the O-line was atrocious, absolutely, and that didnt help

and it doesnt have to be rodgers, i can pull up plenty of qb's that would help this team have an easier time winning, A LOT

agenda against blake?? what are you talking about, just because someone calls underperforming players out we have an agenda vs them?  I dont know blake from anyone else, i have nothing against him in any way outside of him constantly making games harder for us that they need to be

fact is, this team's play calling looks bad because our QB doesnt give them much confidence, fact is, he continues to get balls batted down on routine short throws, fact is he does not use his legs near enough, probably his greatest asset tbh... fact is, he is still prone to stupid throws and interceptions, he just got lucky again yesterday that some were dropped

You assume too much. The play calling is inconsistent. They showed you that clearly on offense in the AFCC earlier this year. They went from being on the attack to being overly conservative in the second half. Bortles did enough against Buffalo and bailed this team out more than once against Pittsburgh before that AFCC game. 

As far as him not using his legs enough? What are you talking about? He's in the top five or some [BLEEP] like that in all time YPC on average at the position. He runs enough when he has to. He's a QB. Not a RB. You keep throwing your little facts out there while leaving out key plot points like the fact that this is his 2nd year now under Marrone and that he was severely held back along with the rest of this team thanks to Bradley's "wonderful" time here. 

Fact is he entered this year coming off his highest completion percentage in a season. Fact is he had us one game away from a Superbowl. Fact is the kid bailed out this defense when he had to. Fact is he doesn't have a Gronkowski to throw the football to. He doesn't have an all star coach like Belichick. He doesn't get to play inside a dome eight or nine teams a year. And he never got to sit for three years behind a HoF QB. This is also his second year in a row now with receivers that are either done for the year on IR or have less than two years of experience on their belt.

We can play patty cake all day over "facts". But here's the biggest fact you need to recognize. He's our QB. Whether you like him or not. And it's important that you remember that it's not ALWAYS his fault out there when this team doesn't hang up a 40 burger. Because it gives off the perception that you do have an agenda against him. You can't harp on a few plays here and there while also failing to address the lack of overall discipline which put him in those holes to make those obvious pass attempts to begin with.

We'll see what happens. I'll eat my crow if the kid starts stinking it up. But I just don't see that happening.

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