(09-10-2018, 02:09 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(09-10-2018, 01:57 PM)Krayz_Jville_D Wrote: I agree the O-line was atrocious, absolutely, and that didnt help

and it doesnt have to be rodgers, i can pull up plenty of qb's that would help this team have an easier time winning, A LOT

agenda against blake?? what are you talking about, just because someone calls underperforming players out we have an agenda vs them?  I dont know blake from anyone else, i have nothing against him in any way outside of him constantly making games harder for us that they need to be

fact is, this team's play calling looks bad because our QB doesnt give them much confidence, fact is, he continues to get balls batted down on routine short throws, fact is he does not use his legs near enough, probably his greatest asset tbh... fact is, he is still prone to stupid throws and interceptions, he just got lucky again yesterday that some were dropped

You assume too much. The play calling is inconsistent. They showed you that clearly on offense in the AFCC earlier this year. They went from being on the attack to being overly conservative in the second half. Bortles did enough against Buffalo and bailed this team out more than once against Pittsburgh before that AFCC game. 

As far as him not using his legs enough? What are you talking about? He's in the top five or some [BLEEP] like that in all time YPC on average at the position. He runs enough when he has to. He's a QB. Not a RB. You keep throwing your little facts out there while leaving out key plot points like the fact that this is his 2nd year now under Marrone and that he was severely held back along with the rest of this team thanks to Bradley's "wonderful" time here. 

Fact is he entered this year coming off his highest completion percentage in a season. Fact is he had us one game away from a Superbowl. Fact is the kid bailed out this defense when he had to. Fact is he doesn't have a Gronkowski to throw the football to. He doesn't have an all star coach like Belichick. He doesn't get to play inside a dome eight or nine teams a year. And he never got to sit for three years behind a HoF QB. This is also his second year in a row now with receivers that are either done for the year on IR or have less than two years of experience on their belt.

We can play patty cake all day over "facts". But here's the biggest fact you need to recognize. He's our QB. Whether you like him or not. And it's important that you remember that it's not ALWAYS his fault out there when this team doesn't hang up a 40 burger. Because it gives off the perception that you do have an agenda against him. You can't harp on a few plays here and there while also failing to address the lack of overall discipline which put him in those holes to make those obvious pass attempts to begin with.

We'll see what happens. I'll eat my crow if the kid starts stinking it up. But I just don't see that happening.

everything you say is an excuse for him

I realize he is our QB, and every time he drops back, I hope for a completion or a TD like any other jag fan.  That doesn't mean I'm oblivious to what is actually happening though, and unable to criticize like you.  If that means I have an agenda then fine lol, whatever you got to say to make yourself feel better.

I never said we needed 40 points a game, I also never said he hasn't had good games.  In fact, I have mentioned that if he played like he did during our run last year late in the year and into the playoffs, we would be fine at QB, however, that is unfortunately the outlier in his performances, as a few games does not mean that is who he is when a larger sample size says otherwise.

He was not awful yesterday, in fact some of his throws were really good, and HE ACTUALLY THROWS A SPIRAL NOW THAT HE HAD SURGERY, that in and of itself is an improvement.

but no matter what you say, we were held back by our QB yesterday, and our O-line.  We won because of our defense again, which is fine, but bortles HAS to play better than yesterday if this team is going to reach its goal of a superbowl, if you cant see that or admit that, well then, go on ahead being a homer that's fine, doesn't change reality

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