(09-28-2018, 11:52 AM)Kane Wrote:

(09-28-2018, 11:39 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: Don't buy it. 

Jags roster better. 

Goff has an arm. So I'd be tempted to take him over Bortles, but Bortles can win games. Proved it twice against NE. Enough for me,but i'd take the arm talent in Goff.  Gurley vs Fournette.... eh. 2016 Gurley averaged 3.2 YPC. O-line is everything for a RB. It's a wash. WR? I'd take the Jags corps. O-line? Wash. Defense? Entire defense Jags except for Donald, but I will give some props to Malik. Malik has played exceptional thus far. 

Difference? McVay has that chemistry with Goff. Marrone and Bortles? Marrone tells him... don't turn it over kid...(wouldn't take 15 extra TD's at a cost of 5 int's) Bortles looks scared to throw the ball deep sometimes. The throws are there.

I can't even.
You would be "tempted" to take Goff over Bortles?

So.. McVay is making Goff better than he actually is (and their OL makes Gurley better than he is) and Maronne is hampering Bortles and our OL is why Fournette can't stay on the field or average more than 4 ypc himself...?
is that your angle?

Just want to make sure I try to understand you.....
For the record, I would totally take 15 more TDs and 5 more INTs for Bortles. (Also... if you're asking your QB to not throw in fear of INTs... you probably need a new QB)

I absolutely believe in coaching. It's odd, I am making the argument for coaching and the counter is ... well it was 2016 Jeff Fisher... hmm ok? I don't think McVay is making Goff better than what he is. That would suggest he has no talent, which is not the case. Goff has tremendous talent, but I believe McVay is developing Goff much better. His offense, as pointed out, is not complicated. It is tailor made for Goff. You switch Blake and Goff starting last year, you think Goff would be putting up those same numbers here? I don't buy it one bit. I also believe Blake has talent, but much of his years so far were wasted by Gus "Sprinkles" Bradley. Only thing he learned during those years was a "we believe in victory" song and how to throw the ball up 50-50 to AROB. When Marrone took over, IMO Blake was still very raw. Almost as if he was still a rookie in a way. Goff throws a better ball, no doubt, but I can't say there's a huge difference in Goff/Bortles in talent. They just are being coached and developed much different.

I also absolutely believe an OL makes a RB better than what they are. I don't even understand how that's an argument. As for Fournette's ypc, you realize he did face like 50% 8 men in the box last season? Offense is centered around him, not Blake. Everyone knows to stop the run first against this team. Throw in Fournette in a team that passes a lot, I am sure his ypc would be more than 4.0. Again, coaching. Point still is, I don't think the talent gap between Fournette/Gurley is massive. Can't dismiss Gurley's 3.2 2016 ypc because of coaching, and not use that same principle here. Offense is very mismatch here, Fournette is power I and Blake is shotgun. 

Still, as for what we were discussing, I'd take the Jags roster over LAR. I just think there is so much talent here, really at every position. I would however take McVay over Marrone. Switch Marrone/McVay, you honestly think Goff would look the same? Marrone would be centering the offense around Gurley. Centering around a RB is archaic and out of style.

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