(10-20-2018, 03:01 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(10-20-2018, 02:46 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: We don't know yet if those guys will turn out to be great players worthy of selection or whether they'll end up as mistakes, but taking a lesser player to fill a spot is always a mistake.

Did KC need a QB last year? Do you think the fact that Mahomes did nothing of significance last year really matters?

How about the Packers in 2005? They had a future Hall of Fame QB that still had years of good football to play, did they get anything out of drafting Rodgers in 2005 and 2006?

Bad teams spend years doing what the Jaguars have done, trying to fill roster spots and hoping they get lucky and the guy they're taking to fill a spot turns out to be a difference maker. The great teams just go ahead and take the good players and trust that they'll keep talking good players to fill those other holes and it'll work out in the future just using some cheap free agents as temporary spackle where they have holes.

I understand. Again, 20/20. My point is that when you're that close to a Championship. And it's crystal CLEAR that your defense is pretty much set up to keep your team going strong in 2018. Why would you jeopardize or risk [BLEEP] around with that window of opportunity? Again, why would you draft guys that are NOT going to be on the field that much as rookies? Why take those chances when you could have taken players on offense there to either. 

A. Shore up your protection
B. Add an actual skill player to your offense that can catch and/or run?

I don't believe Michel, Goedert, Hernandez, Jackson or Sutton are "lesser" players compared to Taven "Bambi" Bryan. Honestly, unless you're a Gators fan you probably didn't know who he was on draft day. So it's not a mistake IMHO. And, again, we're coming off of an AFCC run. The defense was your strongest overall unit. Your offense needed some work. So far they've invested in luxury picks which "could" yield long term benefits but by then will that window of opportunity still be there for them to win it all with this offense? Highly, highly [BLEEP] unlikely now. 

Kansas City DID need a QB last year. You know why? For the same reason Alex Smith got shipped out of the Bay Area to begin with. He's a really, really efficient and good regular season passer but he tends to stall out in the bigger games and bigger moments. That's why they drafted Mahomes. Probably didn't hurt that Alex would have been 34 on KC's roster this year AND he wanted a [BLEEP] ton of money. 

Mahomes was a luxury pick. The Chiefs can afford to [BLEEP] around like that and invest in luxury picks. They had entered the play-offs four out of the last five years there. This team isn't good enough consistently yet to have that way of thinking right now. Favre was 36 in 2005 that year when the Packers drafted Rodgers. 36. He threw a leauge leading 29 INT's that year with Rodgers on the bench breathing on his neck as a rookie. Seemed like the best decision at that time. 

And all you can come up with is two QB examples? The premier position in all of football? With guys over the hill at their points in their careers or at least nearing the end. Or where they could have announced their retirement at a moment's notice? 

Okay.

Ah excuses. "It would be okay to do things wrong, because we're so close!" See Jaguars Circa 2008.

As for the rest, regarding only being able to come up with two QB examples, I'm not someone that follows all 32 teams' needs closely and examines all of their draft picks, but I do follow the Jaguars, and they've been making the same mistakes for as long as I've been paying attention. However, right off the top of my head the Giants of 10-15 years ago drafting defensive line even when they already had guys like Strahan. Worked out fine for them in 2007, didn't it?

The main point is no one could have seen the Jaguars having the kind of injuries they're having this year. Drafting one more guard early in the draft instead of Bryan or Chark wouldn't necessarily help with what's going on right now. The draft is about having a core of elite guys, not having a bunch of guys that were playing the right position. If Bryan turns out to be an elite player in a couple of more years he'll have been a great draft choice unless Lamar Jackson Suddenly starts being able to play (LOL, not happening).

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