(10-30-2018, 12:57 PM)B2hibry Wrote:

(10-30-2018, 12:14 PM)mikesez Wrote: Illegal immigrants are under US jurisdiction. the only people not under us jurisdiction for the purposes of the Fourteenth Amendment are diplomats and the Security Services that come with them. See US v Wong Kim Ark, 1898.

US v Wong, Supreme Court established jurisdiction by... "still enjoying a permanent domicil and residence therein at San Francisco". As previously mentioned, this has not been tested as it should and most definitely time to test and clean up the murky waters of immigration.

There's nothing murky about it. It's been understood and taught since long before i was in school that if you're born in the United States, you are a citizen of the United States. This is not rocket science, and it's only on the table because Trump is trying really hard to become a dictator. If you want to change the Constitution, you amend it. Allowing the Constitution to be changed based on the whims of the President in power is the sort of precedent you'd expect to see out of Russia or North Korea, not the United States.

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