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Team Rebuild again in 2019?

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(11-01-2018, 08:03 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:
(11-01-2018, 03:51 PM)Jags02 Wrote: If they cut Bortles after the season the team only saves a few mil. We're well over the cap having to cut one of our DLs just to get under, so we can't just hang onto the rest of his cap hit as dead money. We'd need that money to pay for a replacement at QB. With that in mind, I feel like the team either has to trade Bortles for a 6th or 7th round pick or else continue to start him in 2019. If a rookie QB were to replace him in say mid-2019, that would be ok. After that season we can cut him no sweat. For Blake to start the 2020 season, he'd have to play like he did in 2015 pretty much from here on out and especially next year. 

They wouldn't have put the offsets in there if they didn't envision a scenario where they'd end up cutting him.  I do believe the small guaranteed portion of his deal next year ($6.5 million) is basically going to force him to re-do his deal here if he wants to stay and start/mentor a rookie to take over next year.  They're simply not going to pay him $21 million next year based on where we're at with him at this moment.  If he goes on a run and we crawl our way back into the playoffs, maybe things change for him.  If they are forced to cut him next year, however, they'd only owe him the $6.5 million and probably less due to the offsets.

The dead money means nothing to Blake.  That's a team number.  They could easily tell him they'd like to keep him if he'll re-sign on a 1 or 2 year deal for $13 mil per year or some other arbitrary low end bridge QB salary which lowers the team's cap hit, guarantees Blake a much bigger pay day than he's currently guaranteed to get and if it's a 2 year deal they could have most if not all of the guarantees in year 1 so there is little to no dead money issue the following year.  The current deal provides the team leverage in not moving forward with his current deal one way or another.  If you're Blake and you're facing getting cut and making $6.5 million for 2019 or the team says we want you to stay for somewhere in the $13 to $15 million range and we'll fully guarantee it prior to training camp, which would you choose?  No one is trading anything for him at a $21 million salary for 2019 unless part of the trade involves him reworking his deal.  And even then, why would anyone want to trade for him based on his career to date?  Everything else has to be right for him to be successful consistently.  There's a lot of back ups in the league that could probably provide that for a lot less money.

Him playing on his current contract next year seems like a highly unlikely scenario to me right now.  Even the most anti-Bortles Jags fans shouldn't have a problem having him here next year at a much lower number in a bridge/mentor/eventual back up role.


You're confusing numbers here. You said, "No one is trading anything for him at a $21 million salary for 2019 unless part of the trade involves him reworking his deal." The $21 mil is his cap hit, which includes a $5 mil signing bonus hit from his last signing bonus. His base salary is only $16 mil, which is all his new team would have to pay him short of re-working his deal.

Again, Blakes cap hit if he plays is $21 mil. If they cut him, his remaining $10 mil in bonus amortization counts along with the additional $6.5 mil guaranteed salary. It's possible that $6.5 mil number could go down with the offsets which would only be the case if his new team actually paid him less than that as a backup. I don't know that we can count on that happening, so chances are we'll owe the full $6.5 mil. When you including the $10 bonus amortization, that makes his dead money hit $16.5 mil. The total savings for 2019 would be $4.5 mil.

If the team was loaded with available cash this would be easy to do, however, we're over the cap and have to make moves just to get under. To free up a mere $4.5 mil with no starting QB in place on the roster puts the Jaguars in a very tough situation.

Now, if they hang onto Blake for one more year at $21 mil, and then cut him after 2019, the team would only have to account for his final $5 mil signing bonus hit. Compared to his contracted $23 mil cap hit for 2020, that would be an $18 mil savings leaving the Jaguars in much better shape to go out and sign a proven vet should Blake not redeem himself by then.

If we make the move this year instead, you can pretty much forget about any decent free agent QBs. The Jaguars would literally be forced to go QB with their first pick, and every team out there would know it. Some of those teams might look to move ahead of the Jaguars, so to get our QB we're talking about trading even more picks. It's just really not an ideal situation.
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Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by KingJones - 11-01-2018, 11:10 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by jagshype - 11-01-2018, 11:21 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by KingJones - 11-01-2018, 11:30 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by ramseyx20 - 11-01-2018, 11:50 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by FBT - 11-01-2018, 11:55 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by FBT - 11-01-2018, 11:53 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by ramseyx20 - 11-01-2018, 12:00 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by FBT - 11-01-2018, 12:14 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by I am Yoda - 11-01-2018, 01:12 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by jvillejagsn1 - 11-01-2018, 12:11 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by jaglou53 - 11-01-2018, 08:28 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by JaG4LyFe - 11-01-2018, 01:29 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Kane - 11-02-2018, 10:55 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Jags02 - 11-01-2018, 03:51 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Jags02 - 11-02-2018, 11:37 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Jags02 - 11-03-2018, 10:59 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by NYC4jags - 11-01-2018, 04:34 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by jaguarmvp - 11-01-2018, 04:41 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by NYC4jags - 11-01-2018, 04:44 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by jaguarmvp - 11-01-2018, 04:51 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Jags02 - 11-01-2018, 05:01 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Upper - 11-01-2018, 08:43 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by NYC4jags - 11-01-2018, 09:24 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Upper - 11-01-2018, 09:41 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by NYC4jags - 11-02-2018, 09:38 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Kane - 11-02-2018, 10:47 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Caldrac - 11-02-2018, 10:58 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by NYC4jags - 11-02-2018, 11:26 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Jags02 - 11-02-2018, 11:57 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Kane - 11-02-2018, 12:40 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Inziladun - 11-02-2018, 11:59 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Jags02 - 11-02-2018, 12:02 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Setsuna00 - 11-02-2018, 01:36 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by KingJones - 11-07-2018, 10:59 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by HURRICANE!!! - 11-07-2018, 01:57 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Setsuna00 - 11-07-2018, 02:10 PM
Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Andy G - 11-02-2018, 03:00 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Adam2012 - 11-07-2018, 02:03 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by JagFan81 - 11-07-2018, 02:18 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by JagFan81 - 11-07-2018, 02:29 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by JaG4LyFe - 11-07-2018, 12:01 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by NYC4jags - 11-07-2018, 12:21 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Kane - 11-07-2018, 12:56 PM
Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Caldrac - 11-07-2018, 12:04 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by JagFan81 - 11-07-2018, 02:25 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by jaglou53 - 11-08-2018, 10:59 AM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by NYC4jags - 11-08-2018, 12:09 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Cleatwood - 11-08-2018, 02:24 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by NYC4jags - 11-08-2018, 03:24 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Cleatwood - 11-08-2018, 03:27 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Kane - 11-08-2018, 03:43 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by snowwolf776 - 11-07-2018, 02:32 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by JagFan81 - 11-07-2018, 02:49 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by MarleyJag - 11-07-2018, 03:51 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by Upper - 11-07-2018, 05:18 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by NYC4jags - 11-08-2018, 03:54 PM
RE: Team Rebuild again in 2019? - by NYC4jags - 11-08-2018, 03:48 PM



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