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Trump appointed judge orders Jim Acosta’s press pass be reissued

  • Offline MalabarJag
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11-20-2018, 12:45 AM

(11-19-2018, 11:31 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-19-2018, 09:44 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: 75% is not a "vast majority."

As far as the '80s, I have no idea what percentage came for jobs, but that's the premise Reagan and Bush were describing. Today over 50% of illegals receive welfare (I posted the links earlier).

So you pointed to a study, from an institute who mission is to make you want stricter immigration laws, about the current % on welfare, but you never did get around to agreeing with anyone about what is welfare and what is not, and you have zero data from earlier times to compare it to, but your message remains that this data is Very Important and Should Change My Mind.  Ok.

And you hand wave away your lack of data to compare by saying that I should trust Bush and Reagan when they said 38 years ago that most of them were coming for work.
But you say I should not trust Jeb Bush from 2 years ago when he said the exact same thing.

You are the one who did not agree on what welfare is, and wanted to include a program where people paid in advance for later benefits. That's strictly a Leftist view, equating Social Security and Medicare with payments (WIC, SNAP, Medicaid) that did not require prior financial participation. In any case inclusion of SS and Medicare would not lower the percentage of illegals on welfare (over 50%). Another diversion from your original argument.

You used a 1980 video of Reagan as proof of your claim that the conservative position has shifted to the right. I'm saying that a change in the conservative position on illegal immigration is consistent with a change in the makeup of the illegal immigrants, and not a shift to the right. Reagan would not support foreigners coming illegally into the US to get food stamps. That was not what he described.



                                                                          

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RE: Trump appointed judge orders Jim Acosta’s press pass be reissued - by MalabarJag - 11-20-2018, 12:45 AM



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